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Former Senior CIA Officer Raymond White on HUMINT and Training the Next Generation - Episode 56


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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast. This is our first episode of season 4! This week we are talking to Raymond White, a former CIA senior operations officer. Raymond has spent over 25 years in the agency, in the directorate of analysis and directorate of operations. He has worked on issues such as Iran’s Nuclear capabilities, the Syrian civil war and North Korea. As well as training the next generation of intelligence officers. Since his career in the CIA, Raymond has founded Wolfpack Consulting. Teaching clients CIA methodology for optimal outcomes. We spoke about CIA priorities over the years, the role of HUMINT in modern intelligence operations, which agencies have most impressed him and more.


Find Raymond White:


  • LinkedIn
  • Wolfpack Consulting


We Spoke about:


  • 0:00 - Ray’s background
  • 7:39 - Beginning work in CIA operations
  • 12:11 - Moving laterally in the agency
  • 14:02 - Following Iran’s nuclear capabilities
  • 14:52 - CIA culture over time and working during the global war on terror
  • 17:48 - New era great power competiton and proxy warfare
  • 23:21 - Confronting the changing landscape, priorities and the importance of HUMINT
  • 29:15 - Which allied and adversarial foreign agencies have impressed Ray?
  • 38:44 - Ray’s time supporting the development of the next generation of CIA officers
  • 41:51 - Life after the CIA and entering the private sector
  • 47:37 - Advice to young people looking to get into intelligence
  • 53:03 - What Ray is reading and cultural recommendations

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