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August 19 Signs, Second Chances & You Just Never Know
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Falling isn’t failure. Staying down is.
This episode goes from emotional to hilarious to downright unbelievable.
Jess is days away from Coop leaving for college and opens up about the strange push-and-pull of being incredibly excited for your kid while grieving the end of a chapter that’s lasted nearly two decades. Frankie shares an update on his mom — the progress she’s making in rehab, the difficult days that still come with it, and why he’s learning that loving someone doesn’t always mean pushing them to fight harder. Sometimes it means accepting that their journey belongs to them.
Then things take a turn.
Frankie remembers exactly where he was on August 16, 1987, when Northwest Airlines Flight 255 crashed shortly after takeoff from Detroit — and the strange thing he and his friends experienced just miles from the crash site before they knew what had happened.
He also shares the hummingbird encounter he recently had on a hike and some incredible listener stories about hummingbirds and dragonflies appearing after the loss of loved ones. Are they simply beautiful encounters with nature…or could there be something more?
That leads to a bigger conversation about death, faith, the possibility that this life isn’t the end, and reaching a place where you can say, if today were it, I’ve lived.
And then there are the stories that remind us just how completely unpredictable life can be: a truck struck by lightning on I-15, a freak accident involving a 45-pound rock crashing through the roof of a Jeep at Glacier National Park, and a terrifying safari story that has Frankie seriously reconsidering whether seeing lions in the wild is worth the risk.
Plus: Jess’s complicated 30-year high school reunion situation, why apparently high school cliques can survive well into adulthood, Utah parking problems, weddings, old-school TV before everything was on demand, and the ultimate This or That: African safari or 21 days on Naked and Afraid?
Life can change in an instant. Sometimes all you can do is stay present, pay attention to the signs…and keep moving forward.

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57 min
August 18 Letting Go Without Giving Up
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This week’s catch-up gets real about something we’re both learning in very different ways: sometimes loving someone means loosening your grip.
Jess is days away from Coop moving into his college dorm, and the emotions are hitting hard. She’s incredibly excited for him — but after nearly 20 years of it being the three of them, she’s also learning that you can be happy for your kid and heartbroken about the change at the exact same time.
Frankie gives an update on his mom as she continues rehab. She’s getting stronger physically, but there are still concerning moments with her memory and plenty of ups and downs. And Frankie talks about a shift that’s happening in him — realizing he can encourage his mom to fight, eat, walk and get stronger, but ultimately, she has to want it. He’s learning to let go of control without letting go of hope.
Of course, it wouldn’t be a Frankie & Jess catch-up without some ridiculousness mixed in. We get into expired car tags, why everyone suddenly becomes suspicious the second a cop gets behind them, the insanity of parking in Salt Lake, old-school TV and Beta tapes, weddings, Nobody Wants This, and a very questionable furniture store that Frankie actually bought a couch from in the ’90s.
Life is changing for both of us right now. We’re trying to feel it instead of run from it — and maybe be a little more like a palm tree: stop fighting every gust of wind and learn to move with it.
🎙️ The Frankie & Jess Podcast — real life, real conversations, and plenty of laughs along the way.

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1 hr 4 min
August 13Perspective, Parenthood & Butt Pucker Moments
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From learning how much perspective shapes our lives to laughing over expired license plates, awkward coffee lines, and one of the funniest conversations we’ve had in a while… nothing is off limits.
Frankie shares an update on his mom’s recovery and the emotional process of helping clean out her home, while Jess opens up about preparing for Coop to leave for college and the unexpected emotions that come with becoming an empty nester.
Along the way, they dive into:
Why perspective can completely change your outlook on life.

Letting go of the victim mindset.

Why police cruisers somehow make everyone’s anxiety spike.

The “expired registration game” (don’t try this).

Dutch Bros drive-thru etiquette.

How should a boss handle difficult workplace conversations?

The hilarious debate over the worst euphemisms for sex (“hanky-panky” might be the winner).

The importance of slowing down, connecting with family, and finding humor even during difficult seasons.
As always, it’s real life, plenty of laughs, a few heartfelt moments, and the kind of conversation that feels like catching up with old friends.
New episodes every week on the Frankie & Jess Podcast.

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1 hr 2 min
August 12 Why Good Men Struggle: Attachment, Pornography & Healing with Michael Anderson
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Most conversations about pornography begin with shame.
This one begins with understanding.
Marriage and family therapist Michael Anderson joins Frankie and Jess for one of the most honest and hope-filled conversations we’ve had on the podcast. Together, they explore why pornography isn’t simply a willpower problem—it’s often rooted in our deep human need for connection, safety, and attachment.
Michael explains how our brains are wired for relationships, why so many good people find themselves caught in cycles they desperately want to break, and why healing starts with understanding ourselves instead of condemning ourselves.
In this episode, we discuss:
• Why children are being exposed to pornography younger than ever before. • How parents can create a safe place for conversations instead of shame.• The neuroscience behind pornography and why it affects the brain the way it does.• The four core fears that shape every person: • I’m not loved. • I’m not safe. • I’m not wanted. • I’m not enough. • Why our children “download” our regulation—or our dysregulation. • Why healing the nervous system is far more effective than relying on willpower alone.• How healthy attachment creates healthier marriages, families, and lives.
Whether you’re a parent, someone who’s personally struggled with pornography, or simply someone who wants to better understand the way we’re wired for connection, this conversation offers practical tools, compassion, and genuine hope.
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If this episode resonates with you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who could benefit from hearing this conversation. Every share helps us continue bringing meaningful stories and conversations like this to more people.

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1 hr 1 min
August 11The Seasons We Never Feel Ready For
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Life has a way of changing all at once.
This week, Frankie and Jess catch up on everything that’s been happening—from preparing for Coop to leave for college, to navigating Frankie’s mom’s recovery, to learning how important it is to slow down and actually sit with life’s biggest transitions instead of constantly trying to stay busy.
Frankie shares why he’s preparing for another ayahuasca ceremony and what he’s learned about separating self-worth from productivity.
Frankie opens up about his mom’s continued recovery, the bittersweet process of cleaning out her home, finding childhood keepsakes that brought back a flood of memories, making time for Axel’s drum teacher's performance, and why this season has made him even more grateful for the flexibility to simply be present with the people he loves.
The conversation also touches on:
The incredible response to last week’s conversation with Casey Vanderhoef

The excitement of test-driving the all-new Volkswagen Tiguan

A fascinating—and slightly unsettling—conversation about AI, emotional attachment, and where technology may be heading

Dorm shopping, college move-in day, and preparing for a whole new chapter
Sometimes life doesn’t ask us to have all the answers.
Sometimes it simply asks us to show up, be present, and appreciate the moments we’re living before they become memories.
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1 hr 1 min
August 06 The Second Chance That Changed Everything | Casey Vanderhoef (Part 2)
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If you haven’t listened to Part 1, go back and start there.
In Part 2, Casey Vanderhoef returns to finish one of the most honest and inspiring conversations we’ve ever had on the Frankie & Jess Podcast.
After sharing the addiction that quietly consumed his life and the decisions that eventually led him to prison, Casey opens up about what happened next.
This isn’t just a story about recovery.
It’s about rebuilding trust with your family. Learning how to become the parent your kids actually need. Finding purpose after losing everything. And creating a business that gives other people the same second chance someone once gave you.
Casey shares what it was like reconnecting with his wife and children after years behind bars, why empathy changed the way he parents, how he came to accept every part of who he is, and why he believes meaningful work can transform lives.
He also tells the incredible story behind Rize Sweet Rollz—how a simple idea evolved into a company committed to creating opportunities for people rebuilding their lives after incarceration.
This conversation isn’t just about cinnamon rolls.
It’s about hope.
It’s about grace.
It’s about redemption.
In this episode:
• Rebuilding a marriage after addiction and prison• Becoming the father his children needed• Raising children through anxiety, adolescence, and trust• Casey’s journey toward accepting his identity and finding peace with his faith• The mission behind Rize Sweet Rollz• Hiring formerly incarcerated men and women• How one Instagram Reel changed everything for the company
If Casey’s story moves you, consider supporting what they’re building.
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55 min
August 05 The Double Life of Casey Vanderhoef | From National Champion to Redemption (Part 1)
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At first glance, Casey Vanderhoef is the founder of Rize Sweet Rollz, a Utah company built on second chances, redemption, and creating what he proudly calls the greatest cinnamon roll in the history of the world.
But that’s only a small part of his story.
In Part 1 of this unforgettable two-part conversation, Frankie and Jess sit down with Casey to uncover the life that came long before Rize Sweet Rollz existed.
From growing up in Oregon, California, and Utah… to walking on at the University of Nebraska… to winning a National Championship under legendary coach Tom Osborne… Casey’s life looked like a dream from the outside.
Behind the scenes, however, he was quietly battling a growing addiction to prescription medication while living a carefully constructed double life.
With remarkable honesty, Casey Vanderhoef opens up about:
• Playing Division I football while hiding addiction• How prescription medication slowly took control of his life• Doctor shopping, forged prescriptions, and trying to outrun consequences• Marriage, fatherhood, and carrying the crushing weight of secrecy• Entrepreneurship, opening a restaurant with Keith Stubbs, and learning business while addiction continued to grow• The moment he realized he had become addicted long before he was willing to admit it
Today, Casey Vanderhoef is the founder of Rize Sweet Rollz, a company whose mission is built around redemption, resilience, and second chances.
And somehow… this isn’t even the craziest part of his story.
In Part 2, Casey shares the decisions that ultimately led him to prison, how incarceration became the place where he rebuilt his life, and how the vision for Rize Sweet Rollz was born behind prison walls.
If Casey’s story inspires you, go support what they’re building.
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56 min
August 04 When Everything Changes in a Week
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Some weeks are filled with unforgettable memories. Others remind you just how fragile life can be. This week was both.
Frankie and Jess catch up after a few weeks apart, with Frankie sharing stories from an incredible family trip to Chicago and Michigan, including seeing Rush live with Tammy and Axel, spending time at the lake with family, and one unforgettable tubing story involving Axel that will definitely become part of family history.
The conversation then shifts to something much more personal as Frankie opens up about his mom’s recent hospitalization, the frightening effects of a severe UTI, the emotional roller coaster of watching someone you love struggle with confusion, and the moments that made the family fear they might be saying goodbye.
It’s an honest conversation about aging parents, family, perspective, and how life has a way of reminding us of what truly matters.
In this episode: • Frankie’s family trip to Chicago and Michigan• Seeing Rush live with Tammy and Axel• Lake life, family time, and Axel’s unforgettable tubing story• Why emotional safety matters in every relationship• Frankie’s mom’s hospitalization and recovery• How quickly life can change your perspective• The importance of slowing down and appreciating the people you love
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July 30 Showpourri Ep. 3 | Chris Provost’s FanX & Disney Stories + Heidi Jones-Asay’s 46-Year Fight for Justice
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Welcome to our showpourri, where we revisit some of our favorite Frankie & Jess conversations.
This episode features two incredible guests—one taking us behind the scenes of Disney and FanX, and another sharing an unforgettable story of perseverance, justice, and hope.
Segment 1
Originally aired: September 10, 2024
If you’re a FanX fan, you probably know Chris Provost. If you’re a Disney fan and don’t know him yet, you’re about to.
Chris, the host of Provost Park Pass and longtime MC of FanX Salt Lake, joins Frankie and Jess to share stories from his career—from working at a Jewish girls’ camp in Maine and performing stand-up comedy to getting kicked off the air at a small Salt Lake radio station. He also gives a behind-the-scenes look at both Disney and FanX, explains the real meaning behind Halloween, and, of course, the conversation takes a few hilarious detours along the way.
Follow Chris: • YouTube: Provost Park Pass• Instagram: @therealchrisprovost
Learn more about FanX:• FanX Salt Lake

Segment 2
Originally aired: September 11, 2024
(Adult Content)
On July 31, 1970, four-year-old Heidi Jones-Asay discovered the brutally murdered body of her 23-year-old mother, Loretta Jones, in their home in Price, Utah. It would take 46 years before her mother’s killer was finally brought to justice.
Heidi shares her remarkable journey of loss, resilience, and determination, along with the message that carried her through decades of uncertainty:
“If I can share my story and give somebody else a piece of hope… I learned to believe in the impossible.”
Frankie and Jess also welcome Heidi’s husband, Kevin, as they discuss the emotional road that led to justice and healing.
Heidi’s book: Through the Keyhole: Solving the Cold Case of Loretta Jones
Available on Amazon.
Two unforgettable conversations—one filled with laughter and behind-the-scenes entertainment stories, the other a powerful reminder that hope can endure even through decades of heartbreak.
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July 29Showpourri Ep. 2 | Hair Loss Answers with Melissa Anger + Actor Colin Cunningham on Hollywood, Utah & What’s Next
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Welcome to our showpourri, where we bring back some of our favorite Frankie & Jess conversations.
This episode features two fascinating guests—one helping solve the mystery of hair loss, and another taking us behind the scenes of Hollywood.
Segment 1
Originally aired: August 21, 2024
Associate Trichologist Melissa Anger joins Frankie and Jess to talk about one of the most common—and misunderstood—health concerns affecting both women and men: hair loss.
Melissa explains what can actually cause thinning hair, why finding the root cause matters, and what treatment options are available. Along the way, the conversation takes plenty of fun detours into life after death, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Sister Wives, Ballerina Farm, and much more.
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Segment 2
Originally aired: August 28, 2024
Actor Colin Cunningham stopped by the music room while in town for FanX, and the conversation goes far beyond movies. Colin shares why he chose to make Utah home, his thoughts on where Hollywood is headed, and even tells a Kevin Costner story he’s never shared before.
He also gives an update on several exciting projects, including:
He Never Left, which had secured distribution and was slated for theatrical and streaming release.

Pendragon, an ambitious new project.

Curse of Crom 2, along with other upcoming work.
Follow Colin:• Instagram: @therealcolincunningham
Learn more about Colin’s projects:• Curse of Crom 2 Kickstarter• The Pendragon Cycle production diaries on YouTube
Whether you’re looking for practical answers about hair health or an inside look at the entertainment industry, this episode has something for everyone.
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