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# With Flying Colors Podcast: Fraud and the Necessity of On-Site Exams

## Episode Summary
Mark Treichel discusses the importance of on-site exams by NCUA (National Credit Union Administration) in detecting and preventing fraud in credit unions. He explores the concept of the Fraud Triangle and explains why a physical presence is crucial in maintaining the integrity of financial institutions.

## Key Points
1. NCUA Chairman Todd Harper emphasized the need for increased travel budget to accommodate on-site exams.
2. Recent credit union failures involved fraud as a contributing factor.
3. The Fraud Triangle consists of three elements: pressure, opportunity, and rationalization.
4. Physical presence of examiners can deter fraudulent activities by reducing opportunities.
5. While virtual examinations have their place, on-site visits remain essential for thorough oversight.

## Notable Quotes
- "As examiners return on site, they have found an increase in record keeping deficiencies, problems with internal controls, and instances of fraud." - NCUA Chairman Todd Harper
- "The opportunities available for committing the fraud motivate the fraudsters to commit the fraud." - Mark Treichel

## Conclusion
Mark Treichel argues that while the pandemic has shown that many examination procedures can be done remotely, NCUA should maintain a balance between virtual and on-site examinations to effectively prevent and detect fraud in credit unions.

## Resources Mentioned
- Credit Union Exam Solutions: marktreichel.com

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