Fred Bell, CEO of Elemental Altus Royalties, joins the podcast for a unique conversation and different perspective than what is typical on the podcast. Trevor connected with Fred while in London. The two discuss world events of the past week and how it is shaping their views of the world, different than the one the two experienced at a younger age. They talk about the timing of it all and if we are experiencing the early developments of a new global dynamic in geopolitics, monetary systems and trade. The two also share ideas on the value of gold beyond that of the price and where the metal might find itself in a new monetary system.