Tax-Free Living, Global Mobility, Second Passport, Residency Planning, Asset Protection, Staatenlos, Perpetual Travel, Plan B Strategy, Exit Taxes, Free Cities, Digital Nomads, Homeschooling Abroad, Offshore Banking, Citizenship By Investment, Geographic Arbitrage.
Timothy Allen speaks with Christoph Heuermann.
Christoph is a perpetual traveler whose company Staatenlos sits at the intersection of global mobility, asset protection, and quiet preparation for uncertainty. What begins with stories of constant movement and remote places quickly turns into a deeper exploration of why some people choose not to anchor themselves to a single country, system, or plan.
Without turning it into a how-to guide, the conversation moves through unclaimed territories, unusual experiments in sovereignty, and the lived reality behind concepts like exit, optionality, and Plan B thinking. Heuermann shares observations from years of travel and advising clients, offering glimpses into how families, entrepreneurs, and retirees are responding to tightening rules and rising friction worldwide.
The discussion also challenges common assumptions about digital nomads, free cities, and what actually creates resilience, hinting at tensions between online freedom and physical reality. Throughout, the focus stays practical and grounded, more about mindset and trade-offs than hype.
SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
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EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:00 – Episode introduction0:06:58 – Start of Conversation0:07:14 – Who Christoph Heuermann Is And What He Actually Does0:08:49 – Personal Travel Vs Influencer Culture0:10:28 – Why Constant Travel Is Energizing, Not Exhausting0:11:56 – Living Light, Mobile Bases, And The Expedition Truck0:13:07 – Antarctica Explained: What People Get Wrong0:19:16 – Research Stations As Accidental Free Cities0:20:39 – Bir Tawil And The Reality Of Terra Nullius0:22:45 – Being Detained By Gold Miners In The Desert0:26:16 – Sailing Across The Atlantic During Lockdowns0:29:01 – Visiting 326 Of 330 Jurisdictions Worldwide0:37:12 – What Staatenlos Actually Does For Clients0:39:29 – Why Global Mobility Is Accelerating Post-Pandemic0:40:59 – “You Can Live Tax Free Everywhere” Explained0:42:01 – Why Free Cities Need Physical Workers, Not Just Nomads0:45:30 – Living In High-Tax Countries Without Being Tax Resident0:48:03 – Family Strategies, Schooling, And Multiple Bases0:50:23 – Exit Taxes, Capital Controls, And Rising Barriers0:56:15 – Living Between Jurisdictions As A Lifestyle Choice1:00:02 – Second Passports As Insurance, Not Status1:08:04 – Digital ID, Parallel Systems, And Plan B Thinking1:10:26 – The Future: Multipolar Worlds And Safer Regions1:14:04 – Media Smears, Bad Press, And Unexpected Upside1:17:24 – Final Reflections On Freedom And OptionalityTimothy Allen: npub1gcf9ltaeu42f4tr20z3avkas04dezlx3jaudqsuu87gvmh686xasrvqjg0Free Cities Foundation: npub1lsj8pmgedqqamt89c27tzjjnlf0wn7q7udjm7j2cl9xxz97eacns2mwpeeChristoph Heuermann: https://x.com/StaatenloschStaatenlos: https://x.com/Staatenlos\_Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllenFree Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfoundStaatenlos: https://linktr.ee/staatenlosVeritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecitiesFree Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities