We kick things off with Glassdoor’s Chris Martin, who shares insights from a recent internship analysis. Then, we shift to a story that feels more relevant than ever: is the classic “mailroom to boardroom” path still alive? Zach thinks so—until he tries to follow in the footsteps of Nike’s new CEO, who rose from intern to corner office over 32 years. But there’s a catch: the unpaid internship Zach’s eyeing already requires two years of experience. From 12:03 AM rejection emails to career portals that treat human referrals like spam, we’re asking if today’s hiring systems are just brick walls painted to look like doorways.

Hosts:

Matt Sunbulli

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Aaron Calafato

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Leah Ova

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Editorial:

Matt Sunbulli

Brooks Borden

Ken Wendt

Aaron Calafato

Senior Audio Engineer:

Ken Wendt

Research:

Zaid Safe

Matt Sunbulli

Aaron Calafato