Jamie is joined by Ben Judah, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's Europe Center and the author of This is Europe: The Way We Live Now. The two discuss the future of Saudi Arabia and it's royal family, the crown prince's attempts to modernize the House of Saud, and the future for Jews in Europe.

Show notes:

-Ben Judah's profile at the Atlantic Council

-This is Europe: The Way We Live Now

-Judah: Sauda Arabia's empire of sand

-Roger Cohen: For Europe’s Jews, a World of Fear

-The Atlantic: Is It Time for the Jews to Leave Europe?

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