If you haven’t listened to Part One yet, go ahead and start there—we lay the groundwork for what unfolds in this powerful second half of the conversation. In Part Two, Rachel and Annie pick up right where they left off: talking about the tension of living in a world where grief and joy often walk side by side.

They open up about what it means to live with emotional integrity while being a public figure, how to let people in without overexposing your soul, and why boundaries are actually an act of love. Annie talks more about how writing Where Did TJ Go? helped her grieve and process as an aunt and sister, and Rachel shares the surprising ways joy keeps showing up, even in the middle of loss.

There’s grace, there’s giggling, and there’s some lipstick wisdom you won’t want to miss. This one will leave you feeling seen, hopeful, and reminded that you’re not alone in your mess or your joy.

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