Frontman Dave Le'aupepe and bassist Max Dunn open up about the false starts, writer's block and personal grief that went into the band's ambitious third album, 'Angel in Realtime.' Inspired by the death of Le'aupepe's father, the album is a meditation on god, grief and growth, drawing musical textures from his Samoan heritage, as well as English drum and bass, and stripped back American folk.

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