In this episode, Luis, founder of Gelato and Abundance, presents a compelling argument for sovereign rollups while challenging composability. We explore how traditional L2 bridge designs may be holding back scalability, diving deep into Abundance's achievement of 1 giga gas throughput through a sovereign rollup approach. Luis makes the controversial case that liquidity fragmentation is a "skill issue" rather than a technical problem, and examines why the future of scaling may not require the complex bridge architecture common in today's L2s. We close out by diving into the evolving relationship between rollup frameworks and RaaS providers. Thanks for tuning in!

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(02:39) Abundance Overview

(08:26) What is Actually a Rollup?

(12:17) Benefits of Sovereign Rollup

(30:19) Giga Gas Production Ready

(33:47) Abundant Blockspace Thesis

(41:05) Rollup Framework Business Model

(47:29) Benefit of Interop

(54:51) RaaS vs Framework

(1:02:14) Convergence of Solutions

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