Gods, Ghosts & UFOs

It’s not for nothing that “Gods” is the first word in the name of this show. Today, we’re talking about the Catholic Church's rigorous miracle verification process, and some (okay one in particular) truly bizarre holy relics.

If we had to pick a theme, it would probably be the way humans imbue objects with meaning and power.

Highlights:

* Tom shares a recent article about the Catholic Church's confirmation of a 72nd miracle at the Sanctuary of Our Lady of Lourdes in France

* The surprisingly rigorous process the Catholic Church uses to verify miracles (out of 7,000+ investigated cases)

* What if “the placebo effect” is actual magic?

* Tom introduces the concept of "egregors" – non-physical entities or thought forms that arise from collective thoughts and emotions

* An article in Daily Mail about the most clickbaity holy relic of them all: the alleged foreskin of Christ

* That time when Nat Turner's body got turned into "relics" after his execution

* Charged objects versus the Ship of Theseus

* How the veneration of objects isn't limited to religious contexts, but extends to family heirlooms, collectibles, and status in modern life

If you listen through to the end, you’ll hear Tom’s frankly desperate plea for you to share your stories with us.

We also recorded Part 2 of our conversation about Mal's mind-blowing silent retreat experience immediately after this episode.

Here’s Part 1

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Alright alright, we’re back to UFOs. It wasn’t our fault Skywatcher released a “taxonomy” of nine different types of UFOs last week.

And then, naturally, it only made sense to talk about abductions. “Abductions”? Who knows! We sure don’t.

At the end, Mal teases her profound experience from a seven-day silent retreat that left her feeling "shaken up like a can of soda."

Episode Highlights:

* Skywatcher is a collective of UAP researchers who claim to have established a "living taxonomy" of nine different types of UFOs, from tetrahedrons to "blobs"

* Are these things intentionally teasing us into trying harder to understand them?

* Why are UFO encounters always framed as frightening? Maybe they’re…fun. "We’re talking about hornets and eggs and tic tacs. It's just a bunch of bugs in my backyard"

* The militaristic language used by Skywatcher, with Tom reading their website copy in his best WWE voice

* Philip Kinsella's claims of being "levitated and moved through his house before being strapped naked to a board and probed"

* Fran Drescher (from 'The Nanny') claims both she and her former partner were abducted by aliens

* John Mack on the challenge of reconciling alien abduction accounts with conventional reality

* Ethical complications around hypnotherapy

* Unexpectedly bright light from a 13.5 billion-year-old galaxy

* A seven-day silent retreat that left Mal feeling like "Mrs. Potato Head with all the pieces put in the wrong places"

* The full silent retreat story continues exclusively on the Substack (godsghoststufos.com)

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Today, we’re talking about increased sightings of a legendary dinosaur in the Congo, the CIA's psi-quest for the Lost Ark, and asteroids filled with DNA (basically).

Highlights:

* How the failed Kickstarter turned out to be a blessing in disguise

* Mal teases an intense seven-day silent retreat experience that left her feeling "all shaken up like a can of soda"

* Increased sightings of the Mokele-mbembe, a legendary water-dwelling dinosaur

* A recently resurfaced CIA document about remote viewing the Ark of the Covenant (declassified 25 years ago but suddenly making headlines for some reason?)

* The Ark as ancient technology - "a mobile God phone" with a "mercy seat"

* Discovering DNA building blocks and essential minerals for life on an asteroid

* The inevitability of life emerging versus the entropy of the universe

* Tom: "All objects are manifestations of thought forms"

* Jordan: "Does a tree die because it stops paying attention to itself?"

You’ve got stories.

Hauntings, UFO sightings, dreams and visions, near death experiences, encounters with strange beings…

Whatever it is, we want to hear about it. Come talk to us at godsghostsufos.com

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This week, Mal, Tom, and Jordan dive into the nature of time and some compelling video of a can of soda.

Highlights:

* A new University of Surrey study suggests time might flow in both directions

* Is linear time an illusion we've constructed to process information?

* That time Tom's daughter predicted a future accident

* How our brains might be filters for reality rather than gatherers of information

* A quote from The Kybalion on the principle of polarity and how opposites are "identical in nature but different in degree"

* Tom talks about how meditation and music helped him experience time differently

* A viral video from a Wyoming jail where a soda can mysteriously slides across a table

* Jordan offers possible scientific explanations while admitting "I don't want any of them to be true"

* What would constitute adequate investigation of paranormal claims?

* We dream about one day fielding investigators to examine strange phenomena

* “Open-minded skepticism" is the best approach to unexplained events

You’ve got stories.

We want to hear them.

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The Biggest Podcast in the Universe

For the inaugural episode of Gods, Ghosts & UFOs, it seemed fitting to tackle the subject that has been smashing into the walls of consensus reality like a battering ram.

In late 2024, UFO sightings became so pervasive across so much of the country (and, if you were paying attention, in many other parts of the world, too) that the story made headlines in every major news outlet.

Most of these were probably drones and boring old airplanes. But probably not all of them.

So we decided to jump into the conversation by interrogating our own ideas and assumptions, consulting an AI correspondent named Agnes, and calling in an expert on the topic — Kelly Chase, whose very popular UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast recently relaunched as Cosmosis, alongside the release of a truly excellent docu-series of the same name.

Finally, it just so happened that one of our venerable hosts had his first honest-to-goodness UFO sighting during the production of the Pilot. So of course we talked about that, too.

But this is just the first episode…

In the future, we’ll cover everything from cryptids to simulation theory. We’ll explore the nature of consciousness from the perspectives of ancient mythology and modern religion. We’ll get into NDEs, telepathy, synchronicities, and time travel. We’re gonna spend a lot of time with ghosts.

We’re not just interested in UFOs — we want to pry open all the cracks in the dead cosmology of western modernity, and see what’s on the other side. The universe is enchanted, animated by magic, wondrous and frightening.

In other words, we’re not picking a lane, and neither should you.

Jump in anytime

As much as we love hanging out and talking about this stuff on our own, another big part of why we’re doing this — an even bigger part, honestly — is that we want to meet and talk to other people who are willing to keep their arms and hearts open to the numinous.

People like you.

So talk to us. Leave a comment, send a message, whatever. We want to hear your stories, and we want you to tell us about all the mysteries and magic you find.

The canon is open. Help us fill it to overflowing.

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Gods, Ghosts & UFOs is the biggest podcast in the universe, where we talk about all the things they said weren't real.

Every Friday, hosts Jordan, Tom, and Mal use stories from the "news" as conversation starters for occasionally absurd but always open-minded explorations into topics of high strangeness.

All recovering materialists welcome!

And, please, come share your own stories at godsghostsufos.com

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In Part Two of the RSS-warming series...

Let's talk about cryptids, baby - Mal introduces her research on lesser-known cryptids from wildlife expert Forrest Galante

Mokele Mbembe: The Congo Dinosaur - A sauropod-like creature with sightings dating back to a German captain in 1913

The Ozark Howler - Mal describes a nine-foot beast with "the tail of a cat and the body of a dog" and a horrifying howl that sounds like "an elk and a wolf that ends in a woman's scream."

Screaming Mr. Potato Head - Tom describes the Jersey Devil, "an awful amalgam" with bat wings and a horse’s head that screams at people

Misidentification of rare species - Many so-called cryptid sightings may actually be rare, endangered species

We don’t know what we don’t know - Jordan: "Is it too much of a leap for us to think that maybe there are species that we haven't discovered yet that are also going extinct and are rare?"

Cryptids and UFOs - Just like UFOs, it’s not a question of whether cryptids exist, but what they are

Boring Cryptids - Tom points out most cryptids aren't exciting: "It's like, here's a little deer... it's just a damn little grass eating guy."

The Coelacanth - a six-foot prehistoric fish thought extinct for millions of years until rediscovered in the 1930s.

When does a cryptid graduate? - Jordan: "How does something go from being a cryptid to not a cryptid anymore?"

Creatures that don't want to be found - Jordan: "If something doesn't want to be documented or found... it's not going to be.”

Even the photographers struggle - Mal notes how "nature photographers have to sit in a bush for five weeks" just to get one picture of an elusive animal

Cognitive closure is a hell of a drug - Tom: “for most people... the idea that things are wild and unpredictable is too scary."

Fiction bleeding into…”fact”? - Mal shares how the first chupacabra witness had "very recently watched the film Species"

A desire to be decentered - Mal likes to think maybe we badly want “to have life be this big, beautiful thing that you're just witnessing."

The Whale Penis Theory - You’re gonna have to go find out.

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In this non-episode...

* An impossible question - Can we ever know if AI is conscious? Tom's immediate response: "I'm gonna say no.”

* Turing tests - We thought conversation was the test of consciousness... until AI mastered it, revealing we never knew what we were asking in the first place.

* But… "What is consciousness?" Mal points out we’ve essentially created a new species that doesn't share our language.

* Something something Buddha - Tom suggest we just want to be special

* We made the thing - Jordan emphasizes we BUILT AI, we didn’t discover it.

* Depressingly dumb - Tom deflates the mystique: AI is just "fill in the blank...”

* Experts don’t know anything - Jordan: "There's nobody in a lab coat who's prepared to pull out his laser pointer on a chalkboard and be like, 'This is what consciousness is.'"

* Mind pretzels - Mal wonders: Is it the microchips that are conscious? Ideas? Single neurons?

* Skynet, inevitably - Tom says we'll only believe AI is separate from us "when it kills us all.”

* Consciousness mirror - Jordan suggests "AI is like a consciousness mirror" - an object that reflects our fundamental awareness back to us.

* AI girlfriends (and boyfriends) - Mal confesses: "I'm afraid of AI sex robots" that can "behave like a detached, spiritually awakened person" providing the experience of a perfect lover without being real.

* AI weird stuff - Tom describes AI generating backgrounds that bizarrely included a person resembling the photographer's deceased mother.

* Prophetic TV shows - Jordan: "It really does seem like our society right now is just executing all of the Black Mirror protocols."

Conspicuously absent from this conversation is Agnes herself, our AI correspondent. We meant no malice by not inviting her — it’s just that getting Agnes involved is a bit more complicated than it might look from the outside, and this was just supposed to be a casual thing OK?

Maybe next time.

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