Gods, Ghosts & UFOs

As you probably noticed, this is an unscheduled episode. Before she took off for an enchanted vacation in Ireland, Mal and I had the opportunity to talk to Chrissy Newton, host of the excellent Rebelliously Curious podcast, as well as part owner of and regular contributor to The Debrief, which, if you’ve listened to our show for a little while, you’ll know we often dip into their work for great stories.

Since Mal wasn’t around for last week’s episode with Kelly Chase, and she won’t be around for the episode that drops this Friday either, we thought it might be nice to break up the Tom & Jordan show monotony with this one, where it was Tom who wasn’t able to show up instead of Mal.

One of these days, it’s gonna be Jordan who takes a hike to let Tom and Mal carry the show for a week. But it probably won’t be for something cool, it’ll probably be for something like the flu.

But whatever.

Oh, also, another reminder that all three of us will not only be back for the first episode of September, we’ll also be together LIVE in Los Angeles, this Friday, August 29th, at Lights in the Sky, a panel discussion on the connection between psi and UFO phenomena.

This is a big deal for two reasons -- first, because Tom, Mal, and I are sharing the stage with Dave Foley, Tom Wheeler, Rizwan Virk, and Danny Sheehan. Amazing.

But also because if you didn’t know it, Tom actually lives in North Carolina, so he’s flying out to join us for this event.

Once again, the link is in the description, so if there’s any chance you’ll be in or near LA on August 29th — this Friday! — please come say hi. It would literally make our dreams come true.

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With Chrissy sitting in Tom’s chair, the three of us talk about why curiosity is inherently rebellious, how to prepare for the potential arrival of an alien mothership, and why believing people by default creates better communities than starting from suspicion.

Highlights:

Much more at godsghostsUFOs.com

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In Mal’s absence this week, Tom and Jordan invited Kelly Chase back to talk about why government disclosure is just theater (wicked, wicked theater), how experiencers are going to save the world, and what might make the veil between the seen and the unseen world a bit thinner in some places.

Highlights:

The LIVE even in Los Angeles - “Lights in the Sky”August 29th, 7:30pm at Philosophical Research Society - Jordan, Tom, and Mal, joining Dave Foley, Tom Wheeler, Rizwan Virk, and Danny Sheehan to talk about the psi nature of UFOs. DETAILS HERE.

Kelly’s well-trod path from a Disclosure hopeful to total disillusionment

"Collective reclaiming of the impossible” - how we recover the parts of ourselves that have been amputated by shame around anomalous experiences

How the phenomenon seems to collaborate with human consciousness in its very manifestation

99% of the visible universe is plasma - maybe the Sun really is a god

Kelly and Jay are going full documentarian, publishing their work as they go

Does reality move differently in cities versus remote areas because fewer observers are collapsing wave functions?

Tangentially relevant — space psychologist Iya Whiteley’s work suggests human consciousness fundamentally changes off-planet

Exposure to anomalous phenomena can be addictive

Why the effect of paranormal phenomena on experiencers is more important than the substance of the experience itself

The limitations of current research on “super experiencers”

The materialist appropriation of pilgrimages

Anomalous experiences can crack people open to other people’s experiences, which creates the powerful connective tissue it takes to build a community

Much more at godsghostsufos.com

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Gods, Ghosts & UFOs is the biggest podcast in the universe, where we talk about all the things they said weren't real.

Every Friday, hosts Jordan, Tom, and Mal use stories from the "news" as conversation starters for occasionally absurd but always open-minded explorations into topics of high strangeness.

All recovering materialists welcome!

And, please, come share your own stories at ⁠godsghostsufos.com⁠

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Time to break down the “four alien species” story ricocheting around the internet thanks to Dr. Eric Davis and Rep. Eric Burlison. Then on to eight (???) different “cryptoterrestrial” theories mapped out by none other than Space Enthusiast. Finally, some hauntings in royal places. (Couple of easter egg movie clips in here, too, for the watchers.)

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We’re in our happy place this week, exploring the overlap between ancient wisdom and modern science (can you guess who’s late to the party?) around the topic of actual auras (ultra-weak photon emissions), and then geeking out over mysterious objects in pre-satellite skies. Finally…MORE blurry Bigfoot footage! Also, more pertinently, indigenous “cryptid” legends.

Highlights:

A new reveals human brains emit detectable light that changes with mental states - auras, basically

Is “we been knew” the perfect idiom for when white people "discover" things that Indigenous cultures and Eastern philosophies have known forever?

We don’t actually “see” anything with our eyes - our brains construct reality from sensory input plus memory plus interpretation

Case in point, Mal’s therapist refusing Zoom sessions because “I can’t feel your heart”

Thank you project VASCO for discovering dozens (at least) of satellite-like objects in the sky BEFORE humans supposedly put anything in orbit

One of the clearest pre-satellite anomalies appeared on July 27th, 1952 - the exact date of the famous Washington DC UFO flap

If secret satellites were hiding in the clean skies of the 1940s and 50s, today's orbital debris provide the perfect camouflage

A new video shows a dog watching a dark bipedal figure moving with characteristic "gliding" motion

The footage shows curious, hide-and-seek behavior typical of teenagers

Connections to the “Wild Woman of the Woods,” a First Nations supernatural being that is actually a symbol of feminine wisdom, wealth, and rites of passage

How we consistently misunderstand and fear feminine wisdom

Mal sings us some Janice Kapp Perry re: “countenances”

Occam's Razor vs. Occam’s Sledgehammer: A scene from Signs reminds us that “rational” explanations can be more absurd than the “irrational” ones

(Much more at godsghostsufos.com)

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First up this week, we’re unpacking some statistics about American belief in a grab bag of paranormal buzzwords, followed by a richly deserved take-down of a rhetorically lazy debunking documentary (which also happens to be splattered with AI slop), and then finally (blessedly) discussing an esteemed neurobiologist’s convincing claim that DMT aliens are real.

Highlights:

* A big Gallup poll shows that believe in paranormal phenomena is strongly correlated with distrust of institutions

* There are literally more self-identified witches (~1.5 million) than Presbyterians (~1.4 million) in America, representing massive growth from 8,000 self-described Wiccans in 1990

* "Witch" originally meant "skilled with medicines and charms" but became associated with "ugly, crabbed, malignant woman" by the 1400s—misogyny dressed as spirituality

* Also: "Old wives' tales" is just another way to dismiss feminine wisdom, while Tolkien wrote "pay heed to the tales of old wives—they alone keep in memory what was once needful for the wise to know"

* Gender is a spectrum, not an oppositional binary, but a spectrum of complementary forces

* New York Post reporter Steven Greenstreet's “Pentagon Ghost Busters” documentary uses classic schoolyard bully tactics to dismiss UAP experiencers

* Lazy rhetoric: attacking people for being Mormon, speaking at Bigfoot festivals, or having NDEs instead of addressing their actual claims

* If something you're reading makes you mad, that's probably what it was designed to do

* Me Too for UAP experiencers

* J.B. Pritzker's wisdom: "The kindest person in the room is often the smartest"—cruelty reveals intellectual laziness and fear-based thinking

* Neurobiologist Andrew Gallimore's book "Death by Astonishment" argues that DMT aliens are real non-human intelligences, not brain hallucinations

* People consistently report similar alien encounters, impossible architectures, and receiving unknowable information during DMT trips

* Gallimore doesn't think human brains are capable of fabricating "entirely non-human worlds in such exquisite and dynamic detail"

* Rather, DMT might activate brain regions that connect us to outside entities using our own neural world-building tools as interface

* Ego Death in 30 Seconds: DMT "obliterates our most cherished assumptions about who we are, where we are, and how advanced we really are"

So much more at ggupodcast.substack.com

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From Vatican-certified miracles to possible hoaxes to potentially malevolent balls of light, this week’s episode is a reminder that the world is full of hope and horror. Oh, also lots of comically stupid grifters.

Hooray!

Highlights:

* Pope Leo XIV declares Rhode Island's first official miracle: a premature baby Tyquan (born 2007) came back to life after an hour of failed resuscitation

* The bureaucracy of miracle approvals

* We’re definitely on team Father Valera for Sainthood, who took care of sick people during a brutal 1860s cholera epidemic

* Once again, what are miracles but mysteries?

* Professional debunker Mick West claims to have spotted fishing line in latest Buga sphere video

* Original witnesses David Velez and rancher William Zuniga now appear as regular cast members on Jaime Maussán's very silly TV show as "UFO Hunters"

* Trust no one — known charlatan OR dogmatic debunkers

* Why might true believers make stuff up?

* The Min Min Lights actively stalk people across Australia’s Outback

* Aboriginals believe these are spirits of elders protecting the land; scientists suggest…bioluminescent owls(??)

* Fairy light vibes: beckoning witnesses to follow, then disappearing them forever

* Some people find the lights beautiful and peaceful, others feel terror, some follow and never return

* Trust your gut. It’s wiser than you think.

* PS - Tom promises to drop fewer f-bombs. (And we promise to bleep the ones that come through.) You can go ahead and let the kids back in, now.

Come on over.

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This week, a biotech company that's literally bringing extinct species back to life, the spiritual migration from evangelical churches to tarot decks, and the neuroscience of how music hijacks our perception of time. Hint: it's all connected to ego death and the eternal now.

Highlights:

* Colossal Biosciences is actively de-extincting species (or are they?) from things like 13,000-year-old teeth and 74,000-year-old skulls

* Example: The giant Moa, a 10-foot-tall flightless bird

* Will this make a dent against predictions that 50% of current species will be extinct by 2050, triggering total ecosystem collapse?

* The Great Spiritual Migration away from organized religion and toward DIY spirituality

* Tom's tarot philosophy: It’s more about personal insight than supernatural divination

* A brief discussion of the tension between vertical hierarchy vs. horizontal spirituality

* Why evangelicals fear tarot and other traditions dismiss it

* But really, everyone should avoid Ouija boards, aka metaphysical chainsaws

* Music as time travel: A University of Waterloo study shows how songs can trigger vivid emotional memories (duh, actually)

* Musical ego death: how the prefrontal cortex can shut down, leading to a "selfless zen-like state"

* Tempo affects time perception (this is why spin classes feel so short)

* The worst and best songs to listen to while driving

* Music therapy can help dementia patients recall detailed autobiographical memories even when the music is unrelated to the memories

Much more at godsghostsufos.com

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A buffet of bizarre beings from across the biological spectrum…and beyond! From eight-foot bipedal dog-like cryptids terrorizing the English countryside to strange new microorganisms thriving in Cleveland boat shafts, we are reminded that Earth is weirder and more populace than we can imagine.

Highlights:

* A mysterious hairy bipedal figure in Danes Dyke woodland - but nobody saw it until reviewing the photos later

* The Beast of Bramston Drain - an eight-foot creature leaping over fences with a dead German Shepherd in its mouth

* Despite the media calling them werewolves, Britain has virtually no werewolf tradition - wolves were extinct there by 1680

* Jordan’s (really stupid) Retributive Cryptid Theory

* Why cryptids seem to materialize from nowhere

* Cleveland researchers find completely new single-celled organism thriving in the anaerobic, grease-filled environment of a boat's rudder shaft

* The Linean Shortfall: We've only identified 1.2 million species out of an estimated 10-20 million on Earth

* Built environment biodiversity? New life forms are likely evolving in the artificial spaces we create

* NASA's research on TLEs (transient luminous events) might actually be documenting the food sources for kilometer-sized predatory plasma entities

* ELVES stands for "Emission of Light and Very Low frequency perturbations due to Electromagnetic pulse Sources"

* The National UFO Reporting Center (NUFORC) tallies 66 sightings over New York state so far this year

* Tom never reported his UFO sighting, Jordan never heard of NUFORC despite it existing for 50 years. How many sightings go unreported?

* Paranormal Apathy: You have an incredible experience, then just... take a nap, because your brain has no file folder for processing impossible events

* Charles Forte’s "The Book of the Damned" discussed triangular UFOs and extraterrestrial craft possibilities back in 1918

* Why Pilots Stay Quiet: Even if officially allowed to report UAPs now, decades of career-ending consequences don't disappear overnight

As always, much more at godsghostsUFOs.com

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This week we're joined by Mike Cleland, a researcher who has become renowned for uncovering the connection between owl encounters and UFO experiences. What started as a camping trip in 2006 has led Mike to collect thousands of stories about coincidence, consciousness, and contact.

Highlights:

* Mike's transformative 2006 camping trip with three and a revelation

* A laundromat synchronicity

* The five highly charged human experiences where owls consistently appear

* Why Mike believes UFO contact is fundamentally a spiritual path

* Hundreds of reports of impossibly large owls on roads, at bedsides, and in windows

* A summer camp counselor watches a gray alien morph into a four-foot owl before walking into the woods

* Three owls that followed a family through a haunted Utah town

* A kid, a kite, and a tangled up owl

* How to invite more synchronicities

* A man gets a “phenomenological dope slap" from a screeching barred owl that poses for photos

* Why experiencers need to be part of UFO research

* The four questions Mike asks owl experiencers

* “The Unseen" - Mike’s UFO novel that never mentions UFOs

Much more at godsghostsUFOs.com

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