In this conversation, Kyle explores the concept of spiritual theology and its importance for guiding our understanding of spiritual formation. He emphasizes that we must be careful not to allow our spiritual formation to be replaced with secular accounts of formation, but we also have to recognize how often that happens. Kyle discusses the Protestant understanding of the gospel, which centers on Jesus as the truth of salvation. He highlights the significance of both justification and sanctification in the Christian life. Kyle then delves into the role of prayer in spiritual formation, emphasizing that prayer is a gift from God and should be shaped by the gospel. He explores the idea that prayer is not a place to be good, but a place to be honest, as God already knows our weaknesses and struggles. Kyle concludes by emphasizing the need to focus on Jesus and draw near to Him in all aspects of spiritual formation.

00:00 Introduction and the Need for Spiritual Theology

03:12 The Gospel-Centered Vision of Spiritual Formation

12:13 Test case: Gospel-Shaped Prayer

31:14 Focusing on Jesus in Spiritual Formation

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