As the pandemic forced us to socialize at a distance, journalist and writer Kelsey McKinney was suddenly unable to collect the juicy stories she’d usually get over drinks with friends, so she started the popular Normal Gossip podcast… and it became an instant hit. After years of gossiping on the airwaves, McKinney joins Piya Chattopadhyay to discuss her new book, You Didn’t Hear this From Me, to break down the origins of gossip, the reason people everywhere love to to do it and the risks that come with spreading rumours if you don’t know where they came from.