This week, Jim welcomes Grace Kao, Chief Marketing Officer of Snap Inc. Founded in 2011 by Evan Spiegel and Bobby Murphy, Snap has grown from a simple idea about visual communication into a global platform reaching more than 940 million monthly active users and generating nearly $6 billion in annual revenue.

Grace joined Snap in late 2024 and was promoted to Chief Marketing Officer just months later. Before Snap, she held senior marketing leadership roles at Spotify and Instagram, helping some of the world's most influential platforms connect with creators, businesses, and consumers.

Tune in as Grace shares what marketers still misunderstand about Gen Z, why creativity remains the defining skill of the next generation, and how brands can earn relevance by becoming part of the group chat rather than interrupting it. Whether you're leading a global brand, building a startup, or simply trying to understand where culture is headed next, this episode offers a thoughtful look at the future of marketing, creativity, and human connection.

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