On Monday afternoon, my team and I recorded this episode with Grant Shapps who (at the time) was Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy.

By the time we'd headed home and unloaded the kit Grant had a whole new position as Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero. 

Grant was still happy for us to release the episode in which we discuss AI, Tik Tok before touching on the Edinburgh reforms. We also move onto why Britain doesn't have a silicon valley despite having more billion dollar (unicorn) companies than France, Germany and the Netherlands put together. 

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