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⁠Grab Chris's new book - Echoes from the Street - Click HEREIn this episode of the Gravity Podcast, Chris sits down with Lauren McCaleb, a high school senior whose life already reflects purpose, discipline, and heart.

Lauren is the daughter of a law enforcement officer, a student-athlete, a Christian, and a talented singer-songwriter navigating the early stages of the music industry. Together, we explore what it’s like growing up in a first responder family—the pride, the stress, and the unseen sacrifices that shape resilience at a young age.

Lauren also shares her journey into music: how songwriting became a form of expression, how faith influences her creativity, and what she’s learning as she balances school, athletics, music, and big dreams for the future. Her perspective is refreshing, grounded, and far beyond her years.

This conversation is a reminder that leadership, faith, and wellness don’t have an age requirement—and that the next generation has powerful stories to tell.

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Grab a copy of Chris's book, Echoes from the Street, by clicking here⁠Momentum isn’t just about pushing harder—it’s about knowing when to protect your energy.

In this Momentum Mondays episode, Chris reflects on the recent passing of his grandma, Wilma, and shares a deeply personal decision: setting a boundary by choosing not to attend the viewing. After years of carrying trauma from death investigations as a police officer, being around deceased bodies is a line he’s learned not to cross—and honoring that boundary is an act of self-leadership, not avoidance.

This episode explores how healthy boundaries help us maintain momentum in life, leadership, and wellness. Boundaries aren’t walls—they’re guardrails that keep us moving forward without burning out or reopening old wounds.

Chris challenges listeners to reflect: What boundaries have you set—or need to set—to protect your progress and preserve your peace?

If you’ve ever struggled with guilt around saying no, or wondered whether boundaries slow you down or strengthen you, this conversation is for you.

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⁠Grab Chris's new book - Echoes from the Street - Click HEREIn this episode of the Gravity Podcast, Chris sits down with Lexipol risk-management expert Gordon Graham for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, policing, and taking care of your most valuable resource — your people. Gordon draws from decades of experience to discuss the realities of modern law enforcement, risk management, and the responsibility leaders carry to protect both their organizations and those who serve within them.

The conversation also explores Gordon’s unique and fascinating career path — from appearing as an extra on the television sitcom CHiPs, to serving as a California Highway Patrol officer, practicing law, and becoming a nationally recognized public speaker and thought leader in public safety. This episode blends wisdom, humor, and hard-earned lessons that every leader can apply, regardless of profession.

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This week's Momentum Mondays came from listener Fred N. He shares a discipline of looking back to the younger version of himself to gain perspective in current trials. He does this at work and at home, remembering insights, prayers, and promises.

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In this powerful episode of the Gravity Podcast, Chris sits down with retired Illinois police officer Dominic Thielmann — a husband, protector, and survivor whose life was forever changed the day he was shot in the line of duty.

Dominic shares the physical and emotional journey that followed the shooting: trauma, identity loss, resilience, faith, and the long road back to purpose. From the weight of recovery to the unexpected isolation that follows a critical incident, Dominic speaks with honesty, humor, and humility about what most never see behind the badge.

Today, Dominic is using his experience to help others by hosting the Beyond the Dispatch podcast focused on connection, healing, and supporting the men and women who serve.

This episode is a reminder that struggle can become strength, scars can become stories, and survival can become service.

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Welcome to 2026 and our first episode of Momentum Mondays. This year, we will be focusing this 20ish minute episodes on maintaining momentum in life. Chris wants to hear from you. What disciplines or habits help to maintain a forward lean as life gets tough?

In this first episode, Chris shares his discipline around sleep boundaries that promote brain health. He mentioned resources for you if you want to get serious about your brain health and sleep hygiene.

Gravity Podcast episode with Sleep Expert Dr. Leah Kaylor

Gravity Podcast episode with Sleep Researcher Dr. Steve James

Book - Why We Sleep, by Dr. Matthew Walker

Book - If Sleep Were a Drug, by Dr. Leah Kaylor

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🎙️ Episode 213 — Echoes, Leadership, and Life: A Conversation with Commander Eric Tung

In this episode, Chris sits down with Eric Tung — an active Washington State police commander, national instructor, and host of Blue Grit Radio. Eric flips the script in this conversation, stepping into the role of interviewer as he asks Chris about his newly released book, Echoes from the Street.

Together, they dive into the stories, lessons, and lived experience behind the book, exploring how trauma, purpose, and long-term healing intersect in the lives of first responders. The discussion goes beyond Chris’s journey and expands into leadership, wellness, emotional resilience, and what it means to serve with integrity in today’s world.

• Why Echoes from the Street was written — and what Chris hopes readers gain from it

• The hidden emotional and psychological weight of police work

• Lessons from failure, courage, and the messy middle of growth

• Wellness and resilience strategies for first responders, leaders, and high-performers

• The evolving culture of law enforcement and what it will take to lead the next generation

• Faith, family, identity, and rediscovering purpose after burnout and trauma

  
  

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In the final Mighty Monday episode of 2025, we slow down and reflect on a powerful question inspired by Georgia-Mae from Australia: What’s the difference between courage and bravery?

Too often, we use these words interchangeably—but they’re not the same. In this episode, we explore how Bravery is the absence of fear in action, while Courage is choosing to keep going despite fear, uncertainty, or discomfort.

As we close out the year, this conversation invites you to look back on where you were brave—and to recognize the moments where you were deeply courageous. Both matter. Both shape who we become.

Thank you for being part of the Mighty Monday journey in 2025. Let’s carry courage forward into what comes next.

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DeliverFund equips law enforcement officers and prosecutors with state-of-the-art intelligence, tools, and training — all free of charge — to help dismantle trafficking networks and rescue victims. Their team is made up of former CIA, law enforcement, and tech industry professionals who bring decades of counterterrorism and counterintelligence expertise to the fight against human trafficking.

What sets DeliverFund apart is not only their operational impact, but their commitment to empowering local agencies with actionable intelligence they can immediately use in the field. If you’re in law enforcement, a prosecutor, or part of a task force — they can be the force multiplier you need.

DeliverFund is also 100% donor-funded, meaning their ability to provide these life-saving resources depends on people and organizations willing to stand with them in the fight. Jaimie and I have personally supported DeliverFund for almost two years because we believe deeply in their mission and have seen the difference they make.

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🎙️ Episode 211 – Inside the New Guard: A Conversation with Dustin Breen
In this episode, we go behind the scenes with retired law-enforcement veteran Dustin Breen, now serving as a Senior Investigator at the Washington State Office of Independent Investigations (OII). Dustin pulls back the curtain on this newly-formed investigative body—how it was stood up, what mandate it holds, and the challenges and opportunities that come with independent oversight in a time of heightened public expectations.

Whether you’re a law-enforcement practitioner, a community leader, or simply someone interested in the intersection of public safety, oversight and reform—this episode offers an unfiltered view of how systems are adapting and what real accountability looks like on the ground.

Tune in and join us for a deep-dive conversation.

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DeliverFund equips law enforcement officers and prosecutors with state-of-the-art intelligence, tools, and training — all free of charge — to help dismantle trafficking networks and rescue victims. Their team is made up of former CIA, law enforcement, and tech industry professionals who bring decades of counterterrorism and counterintelligence expertise to the fight against human trafficking.

What sets DeliverFund apart is not only their operational impact, but their commitment to empowering local agencies with actionable intelligence they can immediately use in the field. If you’re in law enforcement, a prosecutor, or part of a task force — they can be the force multiplier you need.

DeliverFund is also 100% donor-funded, meaning their ability to provide these life-saving resources depends on people and organizations willing to stand with them in the fight. Jaimie and I have personally supported DeliverFund for almost two years because we believe deeply in their mission and have seen the difference they make.

Together, we can put an end to human trafficking in our communities. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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PURCHASE CHRIS'S NEW BOOK, Echoes from the Street

“A Cabinet Without Doors Is Simply a Shelf”

In this episode of the Gravity Podcast, Chris unpacks a powerful statement shared by a student during Instructor Development:
“A cabinet without doors is simply a shelf.”

At first glance, it sounds simple—but its implications are profound.

Chris explores how this metaphor applies directly to the roles we claim in life—specifically as a Christian, husband, and father. He challenges listeners with a hard truth:
👉 If we claim a role but refuse to live out the behaviors required by that role… we’re not truly fulfilling it.

Just like a cabinet needs doors to function as designed, our identities require intentional action, discipline, and consistency to be real.
Belief without behavior is just a label.
Title without action is just a shelf.

This episode is a call to personal integrity, self-leadership, and alignment—asking each of us to examine where our actions match our words… and where they don’t.

• Why identity must be backed by behavior

• How unclaimed responsibility weakens leadership at home and at work

• What it truly means to live out your roles with consistency

• Why titles alone never build trust—but actions always do

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This episode of the Gravity Podcast is brought to you by DeliverFund — a non-profit organization working every day to eradicate human trafficking in the United States.

DeliverFund equips law enforcement officers and prosecutors with state-of-the-art intelligence, tools, and training — all free of charge — to help dismantle trafficking networks and rescue victims. Their team is made up of former CIA, law enforcement, and tech industry professionals who bring decades of counterterrorism and counterintelligence expertise to the fight against human trafficking.

What sets DeliverFund apart is not only their operational impact, but their commitment to empowering local agencies with actionable intelligence they can immediately use in the field. If you’re in law enforcement, a prosecutor, or part of a task force — they can be the force multiplier you need.

DeliverFund is also 100% donor-funded, meaning their ability to provide these life-saving resources depends on people and organizations willing to stand with them in the fight. Jaimie and I have personally supported DeliverFund for almost two years because we believe deeply in their mission and have seen the difference they make.

Together, we can put an end to human trafficking in our communities. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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