At Remnant Fellowship, Gwen Shamblin Lara taught members to be completely obedient to their husbands and church leaders, and that their children should also be completely obedient to them. It’s the last point that ultimately led to the death of Remnant Fellowship member, 8-year-old Josef Smith.

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