As always, the podcast is around whatever topic that Luana Anders, our moderator on the Flipside wants to discuss.

In this case, it was about how to modify stress, how to change the paradigm, and most importantly, to talk about Santa.

I make a joke about how you never see Santa and Satan in the same room - both have the same letters, both wear red outfits, what's up with that?

Jennifer avoids answering me and talks about how Luana is making a connection between Jesus and Santa. I offer an explanation and Jennifer "taps her nose" which is how Luana shows her that I'm on the right path.

The idea that Santa represents a gift giver, someone who gives gifts without asking for anything in return - no loyalty, no fealty, no religions beliefs - just flat out, "here's the gift I'm giving you based on what you need."

Jesus - in terms of the data, the research (see THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM for context) - he shows up in 15% of NDE's whether people believe in him or not, so it's not a religious point that is being made.

It's a giving point.

And when Jesus shows up, people talk about feeling "unconditional love" or "indescribable joy" or "non judgmental acceptance."

All of which could be viewed as "Gifts" to give someone.  Luana talks about how the world would shift in 24 hours if everyone on it could give unconditional love for that time frame - but suggests that just doing ten minutes of focused meditation a day - and giving yourself love while doing it, is a way to chip away at the problem.

Again - Luana Anders is my pal who I was with for 20 years, who died in my arms in 1996. When I first started meeting up with Jennifer over 10 years ago, she talked about Luana being in the room - and eventually we realized that she brought us together.

In this podcast, for the first time, I realize that Luana is "teaching a class on the flipside" (parts of which include this podcast) where she's showing people offstage how to communicate to a denser realm, using telepathy or by reaching out to someone like Jennifer whose filters are lowered or down.

Jennifer talks about how her doctors have suggested that her being in the Delta state for a number of hours per day, has healed her brain from the traumatic injury she experienced after a car accident many years ago. 

Her doctors have suggested that its her work that has helped to heal her brain.

However, that also means that her filters are less than others - and the density of our realm is what the class is about. 

It's another mind bending podcast, but the discussion is lighthearted. Eddie Hassell, the later actors makes an appearance at the beginning to explain how and why he "set off the fire alarm" in Jennifer's home (to reach out to his mother).  

Then I recount the battery on my car dying - and Luana said that was "done to prevent you from having a car accident that day."  It sounds like wishful thinking, except I wasn't aware I'd left the flashers on the car on - didn't see them in the garage, didn't hear them as I normally would.  All I can say is "Thank Lu, I appreciate it."  She also said she was with me and my pals and family on Thanksgiving - which is a fun thing to consider.  

Again another mind bending podcast and it includes Santa!!!