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Bridget Eileen Rivera wrote one of the most important books we've read. Period.

The book is Heavy Burdens: Seven Ways LGBTQ Christians Experience Harm in the Church, and it's a doozy. We had so much important stuff to talk about that we made this episode a two parter. We chat about the awful stories of trauma and abuse that Queer Christians experience on a regular basis in the church, how the Protestant Reformation changed everything about the way the church saw sex, and the many double standards the church embraces towards all things LGBTQ related.

We tasted a spectacular Irish Whiskey called Blue Spot by Spot Whiskeys.

The beverage tasting is at 2:45. To skip to the interview, go to 6:41.

You can find the transcript for this episode here.

Content note: this episode contains discussion of suicide, abuse, and sex.

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