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We return for part two of our interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera, the author of Heavy Burdens: Seven Ways LGBTQ Christians Experience Harm in the Church. In the conclusion, we discuss the common claim that the Bible is "clear" when it comes to LGBTQ issues, when (and why) the word "homosexual" was added to the Bible, what the Greek actually does and doesn't say, how sex was understood in the Roman world, trans issues and where the idea of binary gender categories comes from, whether Christians who reject their LGBTQ friends and family are bad people, and what pastors can practically do to implement change in their churches. As good as we think this content is, the book is packed with more than we could get to, so do yourself a favor and buy it.

The bourbon we taste in this episode is the Fusion Series from Bardstown Bourbon Company.

The beverage tasting is at 1:45. To skip to the interview, go to 4:31.

You can find the transcript for this episode here.

Content note: this episode contains discussion of rape and some mild profanity.

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