Helen Joyce is a journalist, former writer and editor at The Economist, and author of TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality. She joins the Dorx to discuss what is and is not Worthy Of Respect In A Democratic Society, the importance of free speech to free thought, the stupefaction of political polarization, differences between TERF Island and the USA, Left-wing “discipline,” splits in the gender-critical movement, and more. Nina is such a drooling fangirl she barely flinches when her work is compared to painted stones and crocheted vulvas, and Corinna asks refreshing questions.

Links:

Website: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/

Twitter @HJoyceGender

TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/trans-news-and-reviews/

Sex Matters: https://sex-matters.org/

Compliance Comix: https://www.heterodorx.com/compliancecomix/

Fetishized, minimized, and co-opted: Is it an identity? A “gotcha”? A political football? Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS) is in fact a serious medical condition, vanishingly rare yet disproportionately discussed by everyone with an agenda in the gender wars. Jo, a.k.a. CAIS Files, is a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist, adoptive mother, and adult with CAIS, who eloquently sets the record straight on what Disorders of Sexual Development (DSDs) are and are not. Just like sex is a material reality rather than a feeling in a fantasist's head, so are the numerous conditions (mis)labeled "intersex". Enjoy the edifying wisdom and common sense of this long-overdue, much-anticipated episode.

Links:

CAIS files on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CAIS_Files

The Dreger-Wright debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

DSD Families: https://www.dsdfamilies.org/charity

Differently Normal blog: https://differently-normal.com/blog-2/

Corinna has been VERY BUSY speaking out against medically harming children or in favor of genocide (depending), including delivering this excellent 3-minute testimony supporting Indiana SB 480. Nina grapples with the Kafkaesque nightmare that is Indiegogo. Corinna encounters some activists from Planned Parenthood giving free advice on “blocking that legal stuff.” We’ve missed posting podcasts regularly; between all the travel, testifying, day job (Corinna) and weeping in despair (Nina), we just haven’t had time. So please enjoy this unedited quickie we recorded this morning.

Links:

Corinna’s testimony for Indiana SB 480: https://youtu.be/wYhMejWA_zg

FOX59 news coverage of that same session: https://youtu.be/P_nP-bVyfMQ

How to Speak, How to Listen by Mortimer J. Adler: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Speak-How-to-Listen/Mortimer-J-Adler/9780684846477

Compliance Comix: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/compliance-comix/

Agents of H.A.G.: https://www.heterodorx.com/hag/

The Witch Trials of JK Rowling: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-witch-trials-of-jk-rowling

Canada, which National Lampoon once called “The Retarded Giant on Your Doorstep,” is just as affectionately known today as “Tranada.” It’s also the home of lifelong leftist, environmentalist, activist, prolific writer, and shape-shifting space lizard Stuart Parker. A former child-star-activist à la Greta Thunberg, Parker tells all about Canadian eugenics programs, Wallace Wong, “supportive housing”, the post-political era, Big Pharma, liberal nationalism, multi-culturalism, TERF blacklists, Morgane Oger, the role of mascot enforcer, total social immunity, getting canceled, and more. The Dorx are frequently shocked, and not just because Parker’s sarcasm surpasses Corinna’s.

Links:

Stuart Parker on Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuartlosaltos

Parker's website: http://stuartparker.ca/

Los Altos Institute: https://www.losaltos.ca/

Nina is both lazy and unafraid to look bad, as she fails to prepare a proper intro for magnificent political philosopher, author, and Quillette columnist Dr. Holly Lawford-Smith. Those same qualities are why Nina doesn’t wear makeup; Lawford-Smith shares some of her own. Even token tranny Corinna has some no-makeup tips, such as waiting 5-7 years between applications. Then Lawford-Smith answers, and asks, some profound questions: Is makeup attractive, or a signal of compliance? What counts as philosophy? Is long hair radfem? What is Gender Critical Feminism? Does b******t emanate from the Anglosphere, or from France? Is buying sex wrong? Prepare to be dazzled by beauty, intelligence, and humor that are anything but skin-deep.

Links:

https://hollylawford-smith.org/

https://quillette.com/author/holly-lawford-smith/

https://twitter.com/aytchellesse

Books: https://hollylawford-smith.org/books/

The Radical Notion: https://theradicalnotion.org/

Nina’s twitter makeup polls: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613321903846068225

and https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613540702356471808

Elaine Miller is a pelvic physiotherapist, award-winning comedic performer, women’s rights campaigner, and now Edinburgh council candidate. She recounts how she became the infamous “Holyrood Flasher,” scandalized her children, and taught much of the ignorant world what a merkin is. She also discusses why male people cannot have periods, “gender difference,” comedy, fetishes, organ transplants, incontinence, the Bristol Stool Chart, bumholes, and much more. All in a lovely Scottish accent that melts the hearts of Amerkins like Corinna, who has NO REGRETS, and Nina, who reveals some very personal lady issues and clenches her Kegels through the entire interview.

Links:

Elaine’s web site: gussetgrippers.co.uk

Twitter: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips

The Naked Athena of Portland: https://www.artdealerstreet.com/single-post/2020/08/21/the-vulnerable-warrior-of-portland

Dave Chappelle’s show The Closer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closer_(2021_film)

Bristol stool chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale

Tampax sponsors Dylan Mulvaney: https://www.newsweek.com/boycott-tampax-trends-company-slammed-trans-sponsors-1761556

Merkin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

'Flashing' feminist Elaine Miller to stand in Edinburgh council by-election: https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/flashing-feminist-elaine-miller-stand-29057411

Evolutionary biologist, former Evergreen college professor, Dark Horse podcaster, and author Heather Heying shares her thoughts on academia. We learn Heying is the daughter of a university math professor, like Nina. Corinna then nudges the two faculty spawn into a lively argument about just how much women submit to men, and whether social conditioning or biology are the cause. Plus, utopianism and its discontents, social stratification, consuming junk, environmental issues, and why life is too short to eat lousy chocolate.

Links:

Heather Heying’s web site: https://www.heatherheying.com/

Heying’s Substack: https://naturalselections.substack.com/

Heying on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying

Dark Horse Podcast: https://www.bretweinstein.net/darkhorse-podcast

A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://www.huntergatherersguide.com/

On resigning from the Board of the University of Austin: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/uatxresignation

Why do debates about trans rights always get sucked into arguments about Disorders of Sexual Development? Philosophy professor Alex Byrne and Biology professor Carole Hooven join the Dorx for some “Monday night quarterbacking” on the Dreger-Wright debate. But first, Carole and Nina compare notes on hysterectomies, oopherctomies, and menopause. Then it’s on to why “b******t” shouldn’t replace facts even to be “nice,” what “sex is real” actually means, the red herring of DSDs, how the humanities suffer from “science envy,” luxury beliefs, why allies ruin everything, and more. Nina ends it on a happy note: the impending extinction of everything.

Links:

Maggie Chapman replaces facts with b******t: https://twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1605929587220676609

Carole Hooven tweets about C/AIS (over)representation in sports: https://twitter.com/hoovlet/status/1604137509805428736

Alex Byrne: https://philosophy.mit.edu/byrne/

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

The Dreger-Wright Debate: https://youtu.be/K2aKX8Mcz9Q

After raising 150% of her goal on IndieGoGo, the crowdfunding platform cancels Nina’s first comic book in 30 years, Agents of H.A.G.. Money, funders, orders — all gone, 2 days after the 2-week campaign ended. Meanwhile, Corinna observes fissures between Gender Critical factions widening into increasingly insurmountable chasms. The future looks dystopian, and so does the present!

This very non-representative episode of Heterodorx is the recording of the formal, timed debate between Alice Dreger and Colin Wright, which was held live Monday December 7 2022. They set out to resolve the claim, “Biological sex is real, immutable, and binary.” Did they succeed? Listen and decide for yourself! 

Dreger-Wright debate on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn