Hidden True Crime

Chad Daybell's former neighbor breaks he silence. The crimes that happened in her quiet Idaho town haunt her years later, along with the secrets she says are permeating through Madison and Fremont County.

Bernadine tells Hidden True Crime host Lauren Matthias what she saw, and why she believes Chad Daybell has more victims. She discusses the suspicious death of neighbor Eldon Clawson and the concerns many share about his unexpected death just days after 7-year-old JJ Vallow was buried in Chad's yard.

For those new to this twisted case about Doomsday beliefs leading to a murderous spree across states, and to better understand future episodes-we recommend our full Beyond the Veil season, but if you don't have that time, we have one episode summarizing everything you need to know.

If there is one episode to listen to that will get you caught up on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, it’s our May 2nd, 2023 episode titled: "Beyond the Veil: The prequel -Chad daybell and Lori Vallow - the background story you’ve never heard."

LAUREN MATTHIAS has worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.

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Dr John Matthias, forensic psychologist, breaks down Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt's sentencing statements.

Justice is served in a Utah courtroom on February 20th, 2024 in the case of YouTuber mom Ruby Franke and her therapist Jodi Hildebrandt. Hidden Host Lauren Matthias reported live from St George, Utah.

Host and psychologist Dr John Matthias now weighs in on the statements.

August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested and charged with 6 counts of aggravated child abuse.

JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and consults on high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.

LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor in Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and is a regular contributor on News Nation. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias.

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A HIDDEN TRUE CRIME COLLABORATION WITH MORMON STORIES PODCAST with Host John Dehlin and Lauren Matthias.

Justice is served in a Utah courtroom on February 20th, 2024 in the case of YouTuber mom Ruby Franke and her therapist Jodi Hildebrandt. Hidden Host Lauren Matthias reported live that morning from St George, Utah.

Host and psychologist Dr John Matthias will also soon weigh in on the statements.

August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested and charged with 6 counts of aggravated child abuse.

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After the sentencing of Utah therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, we follow-up with her former patient and one of her victims--Adam Steed. (You can listen Adam's original interview with Hidden True Crime HERE )

Justice is served in a Utah courtroom on February 20th, 2024 in the case of YouTuber mom Ruby Franke and her therapist Jodi Hildebrandt. Hidden Host Lauren Matthias reported live that morning from St George, Utah. Stay tuned for additional episodes and a full report of the days events.

Host and psychologist Dr John Matthias will also soon weigh in on the statements.

August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested and charged with 6 counts of aggravated child abuse.

To learn more about Adam Steed and his victimization from Jodi Hildebrandt: https://tinyurl.com/22kcfkpe

Adam Steed v Boy Scouts of America: https://law.justia.com/cases/idaho/supreme-court-civil/2007/steed.html

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LAUREN MATTHIAS has worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in East Idaho, Boise, Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and is a frequent contributor on News Nation. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.

HIDDEN: A TRUE CRIME PODCAST is: CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY REINVENTED. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors in order to understand the world and ourselves.

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Lauren Matthias speaks to defense attorney Natalie Whittingham Burrell to understand the sentencing of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke that took place earlier that morning.

Stay tuned for additional coverage from Hidden True Crime in St George, Utah on the day the pair were sentenced for 4 counts of aggravated child abuse.

Justice is served in a Utah courtroom on February 20th, 2024 in the case of YouTuber mom Ruby Franke and her therapist Jodi Hildebrandt. Hidden Host Lauren Matthias reported live.

Stay tuned for additional episodes and a full report of the days events.

Host and psychologist Dr John Matthias will also soon weigh in on the statements.

August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested and charged with 6 counts of aggravated child abuse.

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Justice is served in a Utah courtroom on February 20th, 2024 in the case of YouTuber mom Ruby Franke and her therapist Jodi Hildebrandt. Hidden Host Lauren Matthias reported live that morning from St George, Utah on the Law and Crime Network. While Lauren reports live, Listen to Ruby and Jodi's full sentencing statements as well as the press conference following the news.

August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested and charged with 6 counts of aggravated child abuse.

Stay tuned for additional episodes and a full report of the days events.

Host and psychologist Dr John Matthias will also soon weigh in on the statements.

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ANNA PART TWO: As we prepare for Chad Daybell’s trial —scheduled for April, 2024– we revisit many interviews that have never been shared on our podcast until now.

For those new to this twisted case about Doomsday beliefs leading to a murderous spree across states, and to better understand future episodes-we recommend our full Beyond the Veil season, but if you don't have that time, we have one episode summarizing everything you need to know.

If there is one episode to listen to that will get you caught up on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, it’s our May 2nd, 2023 episode titled: "Beyond the Veil: The prequel -Chad daybell and Lori Vallow - the background story you’ve never heard."

Lauren wrote and produced the episode so HTC listeners can have a solid grasp on this case in less than an hour.  

Now, back to THIS episode. "Anna" was a friend of the Chad and Tammy Daybell family, was friends with Julie Rowe, and was a long time member of the Doomsday prepper website AVOW. This interview was originally recorded in November of 2021. THIS IS PART TWO.

LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes and to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and has been reporting with News Nation throughout the Lori Vallow trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.

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ANNA PART ONE: As we prepare for Chad Daybell’s trial —scheduled for April, 2024– we revisit many interviews that have never been shared on our podcast until now.

For those new to this twisted case about doomsday beliefs leading to a murderous spree across states, and to better understand future episodes, we recommend our full Beyond the Veil season, but if you don't have that time, we have one episode summarizing everything you need to know.

If there is one episode to listen to that will get you caught up on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, it’s our May 2nd, 2023 episode titled: "Beyond the Veil: The prequel -Chad daybell and Lori Vallow - the background story you’ve never heard."

Lauren wrote and produced the episode so HTC listeners can have a solid grasp on this case in less than an hour.  

Now, back to THIS episode. "Anna" was a friend of the Chad and Tammy Daybell family, was friends with Julie Rowe, and was a long time member of the Doomsday prepper website AVOW. This interview was originally recorded in November of 2021. THIS IS PART TWO.

LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes and to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and has been reporting with News Nation throughout the Lori Vallow trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.

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Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt will be sentenced February 20th 2024 and host Lauren Matthias is in St George, Utah for the sentencing. She will be reporting with Law and Crime, as well as Hidden True Crime during the day's sentencing and will be catching everyone up shortly. ...Until then, learn about Jodi and Ruby's plea deals with Lauren's live reporting.

YouTuber mom Ruby Franke and her therapist Jodi Hildebrandt were arrested and charged in August 2023 after two of Ruby's children were found bound in duct tape.

May justice be served.

LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and reported with News Nation throughout the Lori Vallow trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.

HIDDEN: A TRUE CRIME PODCAST is: CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY REINVENTED. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors in order to understand the world and ourselves.

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August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested and charged.

This episode was originally recorded live in September, 2024. In this episode WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS: Is Kevin Franke, the children's father, responsible? Were Jodi and Ruby in a romantic relationship? Dr John Matthias leads the discussion. Dr John is a clinical and forensic psychologist.

Dr John Matthias and reporter Lauren Matthias, who are husband and wife, have been covering this story since the arrests, and will continue to bring you the very latest in this heartbreaking story.

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