We usually think of hope as a sentimental emotion that solidifies what we want in life. But what if it meant something else entirely?

In this episode Jennifer talks with two friends who connect for the first time in 40 years. Dr. John England, a climate scientist and Brother David, a spiritual teacher offer insight on how to navigate endless challenges in the midst of a climate crisis. 

Weaving together science, spirituality, and consciousness Brother David and John England share—

• How to anchor ourselves in the present moment
• The essential shift to we need to make to create interdependence
• A different interpretation of ‘hope’ that prevents us from bypassing into superficial positivity

Tune in for an intimate, story-filled and fun conversation between two teachers who remind us that hope gives us something far greater than a guarantee that everything will turn out OK. 

Links & resources—

• Brother David Steindl-Rast’s Network for Grateful Living
• More about Dr. John England, please click here and here
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• Show music by the talented Jordy Walker

Gratitude for this show’s theme song Inside the House, composed by the talented Yukon musician, multi-instrumentalist and sound artist Jordy Walker. Artwork by the imaginative writer, filmmaker and artist Jon Marro.