Kristen and Jolenta talk to Tracey Lewis-Giggetts about being a celebrity ghostwriter.

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Kristen and Jolenta talk to This Is Critical host Virginia Heffernan about the worst celebrity self-help books.

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

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Kristen and Jolenta talk to comedy writer and Celebrity Book Club host Chelsea Devantez about her favorite books by celebrities — self-help or not!

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

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Kristen and Jolenta have a special announcement about next season!

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts [podcasts.apple.com], or wherever you listen to podcasts.

We love hearing from you! CALL us at 302-49B-OOKS. Email us at [email protected], or tweet us @jolentag, @kristenmeinzer, or @bythebookpod.

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Kristen and Jolenta talk to Celeste Headlee about whether celebrities should speak up about social issues.

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts [podcasts.apple.com], or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Kristen and Jolenta talk to Love to See It's Emma Gray and Claire Fallon about who is (and is not) a real celebrity.

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts [podcasts.apple.com], or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Innovation Uncovered https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innovation-uncovered/id1516667844

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Kristen and Jolenta talk to writer Gretchen Rubin about the best advice she’s received from celebrities.

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts [podcasts.apple.com], or wherever you listen to podcasts.

We love hearing from you! CALL us at 302-49B-OOKS. Email us at [email protected], or tweet us @jolentag, @kristenmeinzer, or @bythebookpod.

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Check out Kristen's other podcasts! The Pursuit of Happier on Knowable https://knowable.fyi/courses/happiness [knowable.fyi]

Innovation Uncovered https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innovation-uncovered/id1516667844

Movie Therapy with Rafer & Kristen

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Kristen and Jolenta talk to cultural and literary historian Trysh Travis about the development of celebrity self-help.

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts [podcasts.apple.com], or wherever you listen to podcasts.

We love hearing from you! CALL us at 302-49B-OOKS. Email us at [email protected], or tweet us @jolentag, @kristenmeinzer, or @bythebookpod.

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Check out Kristen's other podcasts! The Pursuit of Happier on Knowable https://knowable.fyi/courses/happiness [knowable.fyi]

Innovation Uncovered https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innovation-uncovered/id1516667844

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The ladies reflect on the latest season! Do Kristen and Jolenta have any new revelations since living by the star-studded books of Season 8? What stuck and what was pure torture?

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts [podcasts.apple.com], or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Check out Kristen's other podcasts! The Pursuit of Happier on Knowable https://knowable.fyi/courses/happiness [knowable.fyi]

Innovation Uncovered https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innovation-uncovered/id1516667844

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Kristen & Jolenta respond to listener questions about I Have Chosen to Stay and Fight, by Margaret Cho.

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Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now [amazon.com].

You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts [podcasts.apple.com], or wherever you listen to podcasts.

We love hearing from you! CALL us at 302-49B-OOKS. Email us at [email protected], or tweet us @jolentag, @kristenmeinzer, or @bythebookpod.

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Check out Kristen's other podcasts! The Pursuit of Happier on Knowable https://knowable.fyi/courses/happiness [knowable.fyi]

Innovation Uncovered https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innovation-uncovered/id1516667844

Movie Therapy with Rafer & Kristen

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