Crime scene investigation isn’t just the stuff of primetime TV — it’s grueling, unpredictable work that demands a tough stomach, a sharp eye and a commitment to truth. In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley sits down with Gabrielle Wimer, a forensic specialist for the City of Ventura, California, and host of the podcast, The Walls Do Talk. With over 13 years of crime scene experience, Gabrielle offers a behind-the-scenes look at what it’s like to walk into the aftermath of violence and begin piecing together what happened — and who’s responsible.

In their conversation, Jim and Gabrielle dive into everything from her early fascination with dead bodies (spoiler: she fainted the first time she saw one) to the cutting-edge tech that helps her recreate crime scenes with stunning accuracy. They explore one particularly brutal case that hinged on a tiny speck of blood she spotted — evidence no one else saw. Gabrielle also opens up about what inspired her to launch her podcast, the surprising support she’s received from her department, and why she believes more young investigators need to hear the truth behind the glamorized CSI image.

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