We’re undergoing a massive upgrade moment. This conversation focuses on one of the most immediate and profound challenges to humanity: the ways technology is engineered to exploit our vulnerabilities and slowly erase our ability to make original, conscious choices. Our guest is Jacob Ward, a journalist who has spent over 20 years covering the breakthroughs and powerful forces that determine the course of history. Jacob is a Reporter-in-Residence at The Omidyar Network and the founding editor and host of The Rip Current, a newsletter and podcast that examines technology, politics, and the fight to protect the future.

He’s the author of the book, The Loop: How AI Is Creating a World Without Choices and How to Fight Back. He served as the editor-in-chief of Popular Science and was a correspondent for NBC, The TODAY Show, and Al Jazeera. His PBS documentary series, Hacking Your Mindpredicted the rise of Donald Trump. We discussed creativity in the age of AI, the importance of emotional and intuitive intelligence, and the need to reclaim the aspects of life—like connection and nature—that algorithms cannot commodify.

“As a worried parent of teenagers, I'm caught between wanting regulation because, right now in the United States, there are no data privacy laws and no regulation whatsoever. So, I definitely want something, but do I want a random four-year executive making those choices? Do I want it to be as top-down a system of control as China has implemented? I don't think so, but there's something in between no rules, which is what we are currently living in, and the rules that are out there in the world.”

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