The Direct Instruction Podcast

How Can Direct Instruction Strengthen an MTSS Framework? with Stephanie Stollar, Diane Kinder, and Marcy Stein


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Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Direct Instruction Podcast. I’m Dr. Zach Groshell, and today I’m excited to share a conversation with three leading voices in education: Stephanie Stollar, Diane Kinder, and Marcy Stein.

In this episode, we dive deep into how Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS) can align with Direct Instruction to create more effective, scalable systems for all learners. From implementation challenges to the critical importance of fidelity, this trio brings insight, experience, and clarity to questions that often get muddied in theory but matter immensely in practice.

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This podcast is brought to you by NIFDI, or the National Institute for Direct Instruction. NIFDI supports schools all over the world to implement Direct Instruction with fidelity, and it has invited me to bring this podcast to their conference in Eugene OR in the summer of 2025. You can find more information about how NIFDI kickstarts and enhances Direct Instruction implementations by going to www.nifdi.org, and I hope you register for the conference and come see me do my thing at my sessions.

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I highly recommend listening to this VERY popular episode of Progressively Incorrect with Stephanie Stollar, and considering getting in touch with her to join her excellent Reading Science Academy.

S3E14: Stephanie Stollar on Structured Literacy that is Truly Responsive

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