Welcome to an episode unlike any other!

Today I'm joined by Melissa Wong of Coherence Studio for a live advising session where I help her work through the age-old question: "how do I really grow my business without social media?"

Then she turns the mic around on me to dig into how Off the Grid has actually grown — and what you can learn from that process.

Tune in as we get super honest and explore:

• Two ways we build legacy in our businesses
• How popularity wounds surface in our marketing
• Looking to other business owners as models for our work
• How Off the Grid has changed as its grown
• Why your intuition is necessary for business survival
• What relationship marketing strategies are working in 2025
• Why Melissa wants to be on social media & if she’s going to leave IG

 
RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails

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