When journalist Lucy Jones had her first baby, she noticed remarkable changes taking place -  not only was her body changing, but so too was her own psychology. By her third child, Lucy went searching for answers to her questions. What she discovered was "matrescence," a term coined by psychiatrist Alexandra Sacks that put into words the enormity of her own transformation. So she wrote a book about it, titled Matrescence: On the Metamorphosis of Pregnancy, Childbirth and Motherhood.

In this moving interview, hear Ricki in conversation with Lucy, discussing the spectacular, life-changing shift that takes place for women during motherhood.

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