The Gray Area with Sean Illing

How to live in uncertain times


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Humans hate uncertainty. It makes us feel unsafe and uneasy. We often organize our lives to avoid it. When it's foisted upon us, we don’t always know how to act.

But writer and journalist Maggie Jackson argues that uncertainty can actually be good for us, and that we’re doing ourselves a disservice by avoiding it.

She tells Sean that embracing uncertainty can spark creativity, improve problem solving skills, and help us lead better, more hopeful lives.

This episode originally aired in January 2024.

Host: Sean Illing (@SeanIlling)

Guest: Maggie Jackson, author of Uncertain: The Wisdom and Wonder of Being Unsure

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