On the Glossy Podcast, hosts senior fashion reporter Danny Parisi, international reporter Zofia Zwieglinska and editor-in-chief Jill Manoff break down some of the biggest fashion news of the week.

This week, Danny and Jill are joined by Mitchell Parton, a reporter at Glossy's sister publication, Modern Retail, to discuss the state of the American shopping mall. Holiday retail data showed that mall foot traffic was up this past holiday season, and supporting data suggests that the mall is more resilient than ever.

But that doesn't mean malls are the same as they were in years past. We dig into the new class of flourishing mall brands and the ones that aren't doing so well, along with why the former is succeeding. We also talk about the surprising affection for malls among Gen Z customers.