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February 03, 2021Jason Averbook - Shifting from Counting People to Making People Count: Blending Science and Humanity
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As a leading analyst, thought leader, and consultant in the area of human resources, Jason Averbook is passionate about the future of work and the impact technology has on that future. Jason, CEO of Leapgen, has more than 25 years of experience in the HR and technology industries and has collaborated with industry-leading companies in transforming their HR organizations into strategic partners by broadening executive mindsets to rethink how to better design and deliver employee services. He has also authored two books surrounding HR.

Let’s jump right in and learn more about blending science and humanity and making people count with Jason.

[00:01 - 11:00] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Jason Averbook
Jason gives some background on himself and what makes him tick
Our topic for the day - the importance of making your counts count
[11:01 - 25:21] What it Means to Make People Count
Jason talks about the meaning and importance of counting people
Shifting our mindsets with proof
The importance of marketing yourself
[25:22 - 37:07] Getting Analytics to Catch On
Jason talks about why analytics hasn’t caught on yet
Hands, Heads, and Hearts
The importance of impact and language
[37:08 - 41:52] Closing Segment
Summarizing our discussion today
Final Words
Tweetable Quotes:
“Technology is pacing and lapping readiness in organizations… There’s a lot of work to do here” - Jason Averbook
“Are you the type of HR leader who wants your function looking in a mirror, or looking through a window?” - Jason Averbook
“Data analytics and intelligence have to be part of the transformation...” - Jason Averbook

Resources Mentioned:
● HR from Now to Next
● The Ultimate Guide to a Digital Workforce Experience

Connect with Jason on LinkedIn. Visit https://www.leapgen.com/ to learn more.
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43 min
January 26, 2021John Sumser - Ethics in HR Analytics
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Human Resources ethics are complex, so how do we navigate ethics in the world of people analytics? John Sumser is a principal analyst for HRExaminer, an independent analyst firm covering HR Technology and the intersection of people, tech, and work. John’s mix of experience over the course of his career gives him a broad and unique perspective on the industry. John’s work includes deep research into the nooks and crannies of HR Technology to identify and explain rapidly evolving trends and reviews in ethics.
Let’s dive into today’s topic as John teaches us the ins and outs of ethics within people analytics and how we apply them.

[00:01 - 03:22] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know John Sumser
John gives some background on himself
[03:23 - 15:28] What is Ethics
John shares the meaning behind ethics and how it relates to HR
The tailoring example - Privacy vs. Fit
Understanding your audience as a channel - how tech comes into play
[15:29 - 29:43] The Application of Ethics in HR
John talks about the difference in ethics from when we started
Allowing exceptions to policies
Navigating the ‘right thing’ at a given moment
The application of compensation
[29:44 - 33:47] The Risks of People Analytics
How people in analytics can deal with ethics
Measurement vs. meaning
How regulation into play
[33:48 - 40:10] Closing Segment
Summarizing our discussion today
Final Words
Tweetable Quotes:
“Ethics is the continuing search for the answer to the question, ‘what’s the right thing to do?’” - John Sumser
“Policies appear to be black and white, but people aren’t.” - John Sumser
“The greatest HR practitioners know how to navigate those tricky boundaries…” - John Sumser
“Just because you can measure something… it doesn’t mean that you know what the consequences of releasing that measurement into the wild is.” - John Sumser

Connect with John on LinkedIn and Twitter. Visit https://www.hrexaminer.com/ to learn more.
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42 min
January 21, 2021Robert Mattson - The Power of Storytelling in People Analytics: A Storyteller’s Perspective
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So why would we as an HR podcast, bring on a storyteller as a guest? Robert Mattson is here today to talk about making your data turn from seemingly meaningless numbers into something intriguing, persuasive, and memorable. Robert is a business and sales coach known for helping people craft stories that capture the attention of the audience. Goal-driven storytelling elevates your story and enables your message to go viral within an organization.

So let’s jump right in and learn from the master himself how to share data like telling a story that is compelling and memorable.

[00:01 - 08:35] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Robert Mattson
Robert gives some background on himself
How storytelling helps communicate your data; the science
[08:36 - 12:45] The Importance of Storytelling in Data
How to leverage storytelling to connect with your audience
Getting closer to the target without being the expert; Is, Does, Means model
[12:46 - 19:29] Crafting a Compelling Story
The structure you can put in place to build good stories
Intro - Intrigue, Middle - Persuasion, End - Recall/Remember
How credibility comes into play; Show don’t tell
[19:30 - 27:26] Sharing the Story Effectively
The tools to tell a good story
The challenges we face as HR
How to avoid distractions
[27:27 - 29:18] Closing Segment
Summarizing our discussion today
Final Words
Tweetable Quotes:
“It’s not about what you know, it’s about how you’re trying to change the thinking of other people.” - Robert Mattson
“If you give me a piece of data, 3 days later I have a 5% chance of remembering it. If you tell me a story, 3 days later I have a 70% chance of remembering.” - Robert Mattson
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” - Maya Angelou

Connect with Robert on LinkedIn. Visit https://www.itmspeakers.com to learn more about his work.
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This show is brought to you by Turetsky Consulting LLC, our company providing business consulting on Analytics, HR Processes, and Rewards with a focus on getting answers that organizations need by demystifying People Analytics.
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31 min
January 14, 2021Chris Kunze - Applicability of Predictive Models for Assessments in the World of HR
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While insights certainly measure the past, data can also be used to predict the future. Chris Kunze is the Founder and President of Kunze Analytics where he assists decision-makers, sales leaders, HR professionals, trainers, and coaches in order to predict employee performance, retention, engagement, and safety. Chris is a self-proclaimed Data Geek who dives into the data to find ‘hidden talent.’
Let’s get a bit technical today and learn from Chris how he uses the Predictive Model Markup Language used to create and run models in different software packages.

[00:01 - 05:18] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Chris Kunze
Chris gives some background on himself
Chris talks us through some of the in and outs of PMML
[05:31 - 07:41] Why PMML is Useful
The value and importance of having a common language
Automating your process
[07:55 - 23:39] The Most Predictive Data for Employee Performance
PMML’s usefulness in assessment data
Chris talks about creating and running models
Reliable data designed to be used for serious decisions
Finding hidden traits; Chris’ example
Chris’ advanced statistical modeling test set
[23:53 - 32:36] Coaching; Insights from People Analytics
Chris talks about his experience with training students
Pulling out people’s greatest strengths
The ability to monetize your work
[32:37 - 34:51] Closing Segment
Summarizing our discussion today
Final Words
Tweetable Quotes:
“This [PMML] is a way the industry can standardize concepts, and provide some transparency…” - Chris Kunze
“What gets measured gets managed, if you don’t know what your measurements are you don’t know where you stand or where you can make and track improvements.” - David Turetsky

Connect with Chris on LinkedIn. Visit https://www.kunzeanalytics.com to learn more about his space.
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This show is brought to you by Turetsky Consulting LLC, our company providing business consulting on Analytics, HR Processes, and Rewards with a focus on getting answers that organizations need by demystifying People Analytics.
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW + Share this episode with like-minded people who can benefit from this content.
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37 min
January 07, 2021 Mick Collins - Closing the Workforce Analytics Execution Gap by Using Data to Challenge Conventional Wisdom
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Welcome to the new year! I hope all of you are well. As we get back into the flow of things, we have with us, Mick Collins, the Vice President for the People Analytics products at SAP/SuccessFactors; overseeing the go-to-market for these solutions. His background is in HR analytics research and consulting, with a multi-year stint in corporate strategy research. His areas of interest pertaining to analytics story-telling, decision-making, and building HR capabilities for analytics.
Let’s dive right in and learn how Mick closes the workforce analytics gap using data to challenge conventional wisdom.

[00:01 - 03:45] Opening Segment
● Let’s get to know Mick Collins
● Mick gives some background on his work

[03:46 - 12:28] How to Get People to Move Beyond the Gap
● Mick talks about how to overcome the gap by defining the issues
● Mick gives advice on how to help clients come out with a governance structure
● How the future of HR will be affected by the SEC

[12:29 - 23:11] Telling a Compelling Story that Matters
● Mick’s insights and experience around storytelling in Data and People Analytics
● Giving good presentations despite the lack of certainty
● The level of risk HR should be taking
● Sharing passion with teams

[23:12 - 34:24] Using Data to Investigate Low Visibility Issues in HR
● Mick talks about unique issues that he’s been analyzing
● Next-generation metrics
● Challenging conventional wisdom through analytics
● Understanding the fundamentals of the business culture

[34:25 - 37:44] Closing Segment
● Summarizing our discussion today
● Final Words

Tweetable Quotes:
“I love the storytelling aspects [of data analytics]… Really where the rubber hits the road is when you teach people how to interpret the data and then ultimately take action.” - Mick Collins
“HR is expected to have 100% definitive conclusions and causations… We don’t have the perfect science, but if we don’t make decisions based on data we’re gonna be no better off in the future than we are today.” - Mick Collins
“If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will take you there.” - Mick Collins
Connect with Mick on LinkedIn and Twitter. Visit www.successfactors.com to learn more about his space.
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Connect with me:
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Email: [email protected]
This show is brought to you by Turetsky Consulting LLC, our company providing business consulting on Analytics, HR Processes, and Rewards with a focus on getting answers that organizations need by demystifying People Analytics.
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW + Share this episode with like-minded people who can benefit from this content.
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For more HR Data Labs®, enjoy the HR Data Labs Brown Bag Lunch Hours every Friday at 2:00PM-2:30PM EST. Check it out here: https://hrdatalabs.com/brown-bag-lunch/

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39 min
December 17, 2020Holger Mueller - What Can HR Learn from Enterprise Technology
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It’s time for HR to optimize and say People Systems are Critical Systems. Here to spread these insights is today’s guest, Holger Mueller. Holger travels the globe as the VP and Principal Analyst of Constellation Research Inc. A technological research and advisory firm based in Silicon Valley. He is an expert in enterprise technology and has great insight into how data analytics holds up in maturity level compared to the enterprise space.

Let’s dive right in and learn what we in HR can gather and learn from enterprise technology today.
[00:01 - 03:45] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Holger Mueller
Holger talks a bit about his interests
[03:46 - 15:57] Lessons HR Can Learn About Where Enterprise Tech is Today
Holger gives insights into where enterprise tech stands currently
Infinite insights and capabilities
How HR differs from the capabilities of enterprise and how to adapt
Holger talks about current practices that are missing
Best practices that are heading in the right direction
[15:58 - 21:03] The Issues Enterprise Tech Has to Face
The issues of a fragmented system
Why HR has yet to take use of all the features available
[21:04 - 30:29] Why Certain Tech Hasn’t Seen the Adoption You’d Expect
Holger shares his insights on the difficulties of changing and optimizing systems
How we can run better decisions
The fears and limitations hidden in HR and how to navigate them
How Covid changes the world of analytics
[30:30 - 33:37] Closing Segment
How Covid will change the world of analytics
Final Words
Tweetable Quotes:
“Now we are in the era of infinite insights, because for the first time enterprise can store all the information they have available.” - Holger Mueller
“Things have to happen in the 21st century without people showing up; systems have to reach out to me.” - Holger Mueller
“I think people in HR need to step up and say, People Systems are Critical Systems.” - Holger Mueller
Connect with Holger on LinkedIn and Twitter. Visit https://www.constellationr.com to learn more.

Video of this podcast can be found here: https://youtu.be/8LyjdT6zCEE
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35 min
December 09, 2020Chris Minnich - Using Data and Analytics to Drive Career Decisions
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Today we have a major influencer in the HR space, my good friend… Chris Minnich. Chris is a Human Resources Executive with extensive progressive leadership experience from building and leading high-performance teams to developing, implementing, and communicating HR policies and programs that drive improvements in employee engagement and performance. Chris has expertise across Human Resources with deep expertise in Market Data Analysis and Total Rewards at Lending Tree where he is the Vice President.

Let’s dive right in and learn how Chris has used data analysis to drive career decisions, and find the right people, for the right roles, at the right time.

[00:01 - 05:41] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Chris Minnich
Chris gives some of his background on his work and collaborations
[05:42 - 11:55] Data Prep Needed for Career Paths to Work
Chris talks about the prep work needed in career pathing
Right people and the right structure; cleaning up the data
Don’t change the titles, help people adapt
[11:56 - 18:23] Where to Start
Chris shares where to start in career pathing
The two ideas that need to be answered
Matching skills to jobs as an end game
[18:24 - 24:21] Managing the Issue of Culture
Chris talks about the importance of management buy-in
The strategic approach Lending Tree takes
Creating an operating rhythm; keeping data current
[24:22 - 28:11] AI and Making Automation Work
Chris’ views on AI and automated systems
Correcting for bias
[28:12 - 29:52] Closing Segment
Summary of the conversation
Final Words
Resources Mentioned:

Workday

Tweetable Quotes:

“If you kind of meet the company where it’s at and start to define and solve a smaller problem, then you can build it out to really create the whole career ladder, career lattice, career path idea.” - Chris Minnich

“[A Career Ladder] really does have two ideas: how do I grow within my function and how do I progress...?” - Chris Minnich

Connect with Chris on LinkedIn.

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31 min
December 03, 2020Heidi Wallman - Data: Managing, Measuring, and 'Proving them Wrong!'
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To share with us the power and importance of HR Data we have Heidi Wallman with us. Heidi is the Corporate People Systems Director at Canyon Ranch. She specializes in analysis, metrics and reports involving people data to support and continually improve operations of the People Services Department in selecting & retaining a world class workforce in supporting the mission of Canyon Ranch. Her truest passions lie at the heart of HR Analytics, and being able to provide meaningful metrics to colleagues within the company.
Without further ado, why don’t we jump right in and learn how Heidi uses and manages data to… ‘Prove them Wrong.’

[00:01 - 02:37] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Heidi Wallman
Heidi talks about her interests in HR
[02:38 - 07:11] Managing 1,400 Employees Across 4 Properties
Allowing employees self-service - 94% utilization
Heidi’s tips to drive utilization
Taking ownership of the data; Heidi’s experiences
[07:12 - 11:31] HR Metrics that Drive Business Decisions
Heidi talks about knowing your measurements
Getting managers involved in the decision making process
Other metrics that have resonance
[11:32 - 14:15] How to, “Prove Them Wrong”
Heidi talks about what she means by this phrase
Challenging the perceptions and assumptions with data
Dealing with push back
[14:16 - 16:48] Closing Segment
Summary of our conversation
Thinking of HR as an art and using the data
Final Words
Resources Mentioned:
Talent Finders
Tweetable Quotes:
“What gets measured gets managed. If you don’t know what your measurements are you’re now going to know where you stand or how you can make and track improvements.” - Heidi Wallman
“Once we drill down into the data, and provide them with actual detailed data, we can prove them wrong.” - Heidi Wallman
Connect with Heidi on LinkedIn. Visit https://www.canyonranch.com to learn more.
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This show is brought to you by Turetsky Consulting LLC, our company providing business consulting on Analytics, HR Processes, and Rewards with a focus on getting answers that organizations need by demystifying People Analytics.
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18 min
November 19, 2020Sushma Tripathi - Compliance and Measuring Impacts to Productivity in the World of COVID-19
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Is it still possible to make sense of productivity metrics under COVID-19 and with new compliance requirements being put in place? I believe we’ll have this question answered by today’s guest, Sushma Tripathi, Vice President of Strategic Advisory Services with ADP’s National Accounts Division. Sushma has over 25 years of progressive leadership and operations management, primarily in the fast-paced, high-growth, disability management and benefits administration outsourcing/insurance market.
Let’s jump right into Sushma’s expertise and learn productivity under new compliance rules and the COVID-19 pandemic.

[00:01 - 03:13] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Sushma Tripathi
Sushma talks about her background
[03:14 - 09:35] Productivity and Compliance
Engagement and productivity are interrelated
Regulatory requirements should be considered
Diversity
Inclusion
Pay equity
Time on work and off work should be assessed too
Employees should enjoy job-protected benefits
[09:36 - 18:50] Productivity Under COVID-19
Sushma talks about the stimulus packages recently passed
Families First Coronavirus Response Act
CARES Act
Productivity management has become crucial
Absence
Overtime
Artificial Intelligence offers various benefits for employers
Automation
Efficiency
[18:51 - 27:41] Productivity Metrics
Sushma talks about the potential of analytics in monitoring specific datasets
Time
Attendance
We talk about productivity metrics
[27:42 - 31:50] Closing Segment
Summary of our conversation
Workforce data is quantifiable
Final Words
Resources Mentioned:
Families First Coronavirus Response Act
CARES Act
Tweetable Quotes:
“Many times, you feel like you’ve seen it all, but that’s never true.” - Sushma Tripathi
“You can’t manage what you don’t measure.” - Sushma Tripathi
“Workforce data is not an abstract concept. A few years ago, it used to be, but not anymore” - Sushma Tripathi

Connect with Sushma on LinkedIn and Twitter. Visit https://www.adp.com/ to learn more.
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This show is brought to you by Turetsky Consulting LLC, our company providing business consulting on Analytics, HR Processes, and Rewards with a focus on getting answers that organizations need by demystifying People Analytics.
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33 min
November 12, 2020Natalie Born - Innovation in the World of HR: What Lessons Can We Learn for HR Data and Analytics?
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What lessons can people who are responsible for HR Data and Analytics learn from the world of innovation to be more innovative? I believe we’ll have this question answered by today’s guest, Natalie Born, the Founder and Chief Distributor of Innovation Meets Leadership and VP of Innovation for Territory Global. As an accomplished executive with two approved US patents under her belt and over 15 years of experience leading product development teams, she is consistently willing to share her expertise to ensure companies are designing their products and strategy with the customer at the center of the design. She is also the host of the Innovation Meets Leadership Podcast.

Let’s jump right into Natalie’s expertise and learn what innovation can look like in the world of HR.

[00:01 - 03:55] Opening Segment
Let’s get to know Natalie Born
Natalie talks about her background
[03:56 - 11:38] Lessons Learned While in HR
Throw out the assumptions
Finding disruptors without causing chaos
Embracing failure; Innovation in three phases
[11:39 - 14:52] Genesis of the Innovation Diagnostic
Natalie talks about creating the innovation index tool
Benefits to HR
Innovation in a team setting
[14:53 - 25:13] How to Start Being Innovative
Natalie gives her insights on how to get innovation started
Encouraging and empowering critical thinking
The core of innovation
[25:14 - 27:59] Closing Segment
Summary of our conversation
Understanding the role you hold
Final Words
Resources Mentioned:
Innovation Meets Leadership Podcast
Innovation Index
Tweetable Quotes:
“One of the things I would say if you are looking to step into an innovative space within HR, is throw out the assumptions!” - Natalie Born
“We need to bring people to the tabel who have a slant and a bias towards action.” - Natalie Born
“Innovation is no longer about brilliant individuals, it’s about brilliant teams.” - Natalie Born
“It’s not about what exists today, it’s about what you will build tomorrow.” - Natalie Born
Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram. Visit www.innovationmeetsleadership.com to learn more.
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29 min

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