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I sat down with Carl Lentz in an unfiltered conversation about his rise, his "fall" and what comes next.

No pre-packaged answers, no PR spin—just a man who's been through the fire and lived to tell the story.

We talk about:

🔥 The pressure of leading Hillsong NYC and how it all unraveled

🔥 What real repentance and accountability look like after public failure

🔥 The dark side of church culture, leadership, and 'celebrity pastors'

A lot of people have opinions about Carl, but few have actually heard him speak for himself. This is that chance.

Drop a comment, share your thoughts, and let's talk about it!

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