Dr. Don Payne joins the crew again. Amy starts with a great icebreaker question about their childhood aspirations. After that, they explore the significance of the Trinity and the importance of understanding God through personal experience. They discuss the role of the Holy Spirit, the nature of salvation, and the impact of relationships on faith. The conversation emphasizes grace as a relational experience rather than a commodity, and the hosts reflect on mutual submission in relationships as a reflection of the Trinity. They conclude with thoughts on the importance of community and the transformative power of faith.