Thousands and maybe even tens of thousands of Russians have fled the country in a panic following Putin’s regime change invasion of Ukraine — going to wherever they can: Georgia, Turkey, Armenia, Dubai, the EU. To get a sense of what’s going on and who is fleeing and what people are thinking, we talk to Anna, an old friend of Evgenia’s from her school days, who is currently in Istanbul and among Russians who have fled.

The picture we get is that there are two basic groups of people fleeing Russia. One is journalists and opposition media types. The second is a lot of freaked out people — those who have some money and are scared of what might come next, like a military draft or totally closed borders. Anna thinks that lot of people in the second category will ultimately return to Russia is things stabilize because…well…it’s not like there are big opportunities waiting for them in the west, unless they're programmers or computer engineers.

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—Yasha Levine

Listen to our previous episodes…including the last two we did on the Russia’s war in Ukraine.

* Putin's Grievance Speech...and, f**k this war.

* “Operation Z”

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A week into Putin’s regime change war, Evgenia and I sit down to talk about our thoughts on what’s happening and about what we’re hearing from friends and family in Russia. On one side, it’s clear there are a lot of people totally backing Putin’s “humanitarian intervention” — for instance, my mom’s childhood friend in St. Petersburg screamed at her that “Putin is God” and that “he’s saving the Russian people.” On the other, a lot of Russians are shocked and totally terrified by what’s happening, and a good number of people are fleeing as best they can to wherever they can — Georgia, Azerbaijan, Israel, Turkey, European countries.

It’s obvious this war is splitting society in a big way. And Putin’s propagandists are working overtime, using the only thing that still sort of binds Russia together: a kind of aggrieved nationalism and the memory of the Soviet Union’s victory over Nazi Germany.

In a way, this regime change war is brining to conclusion a societal split that began in earnest in 2011 — when Putin turned his back on big city liberals and started pumping up support among Russia’s silent majority. Or, as Evgenia puts it, what’s emerged now is a coalition of ruling elite vampires and the “zombies” that Russian liberals love to mock. Operation Z.

—Yasha Levine

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Catch up on some old eps:

* Putin's Grievance Speech...and, f**k this war.

* China's Olympic Menace and Immigrant Deprogramming with Carl Zha

* The Ayahuasca Special

* Christmas Special: Ghost of Epstein

* St. Paul of Amsterdam

* …more

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Putin shocked and surprised pretty much everyone in Russia by launching a regime change war on Ukraine. Two days before that, he went on Russian TV and gave a menacing grievance speech — in which he attacked America but also went after the Bolsheviks, blaming the disintegration of the Soviet Union and today’s crisis in Ukraine squarely on Lenin.

Evgenia and I discuss his speech and talk about how it fits into the mushy national identity that Putin’s elite has been trying to cobble together for Russia.

—Yasha Levine

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Catch up on some old eps:

* China's Olympic Menace and Immigrant Deprogramming with Carl Zha

* “Navalny,” the documentary

* The Ayahuasca Special

* Christmas Special: Ghost of Epstein

* St. Paul of Amsterdam

* Immigrant Deprogramming with Nika Dubrovsky

* Imaginary Futures with Richard Barbrook

* Behind the Silicon Curtain

* The Soviet Jew & good riddance Los Feliz

* “I didn’t want to live in a simulacrum of American life in the ruins of the Soviet Union”

* Watching American movies in the USSR ft. Boris Levine

* Anti-Soviet identities in the USSR

* The End

* Breeders

* Adam Curtis, get out of my head

* Navalny, the Kremlin, and the curse of neoliberalism

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In this ep Evgenia and I talk about Inventing Anna, the new show that just landed on Netflix based on the story of Anna Sorokin — a young Russian immigrant from Germany who tried scamming her way into New York’s global elite a few years back.

—Yasha Levine

PS: Towards the end of the show we mention Mark Ames’ great piece about the tragic story of a different ambitious Anna — an Anna Loginova — who tried making it in Moscow…

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Catch up on some old eps:

* China's Olympic Menace and Immigrant Deprogramming with Carl Zha

* “Navalny,” the documentary

* The Ayahuasca Special

* Christmas Special: Ghost of Epstein

* St. Paul of Amsterdam

* Immigrant Deprogramming with Nika Dubrovsky

* Imaginary Futures with Richard Barbrook

* Behind the Silicon Curtain

* The Soviet Jew & good riddance Los Feliz

* “I didn’t want to live in a simulacrum of American life in the ruins of the Soviet Union”

* Watching American movies in the USSR ft. Boris Levine

* Anti-Soviet identities in the USSR

* The End

* Breeders

* Adam Curtis, get out of my head

* Navalny, the Kremlin, and the curse of neoliberalism

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In this ep Evgenia and I are joined by Carl Zha to talk about the insane reaction — including accusations of treason and betrayal — coming out of U.S. media after American skier Eileen Gu decided to compete for China. We then transition to talking about Carl’s experience as a Chinese immigrant growing up in America.

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If you don’t know Carl, he runs the great “Silk and Steal” podcast about Chinese history and culture. He’s being constantly libeled in western media as some sort sneaky propagandist for the Chinese government because he offers a balanced view of his homeland and not the constant China bashing that’s expected from immigrants like him — a topic that we get into in our interview. Check him out on Patreon and YouTube.

—Yasha Levine

Catch up on some old eps:

* “Navalny,” the documentary

* The Ayahuasca Special

* Christmas Special: Ghost of Epstein

* St. Paul of Amsterdam

* Immigrant Deprogramming with Nika Dubrovsky

* Imaginary Futures with Richard Barbrook

* Behind the Silicon Curtain

* The Soviet Jew & good riddance Los Feliz

* “I didn’t want to live in a simulacrum of American life in the ruins of the Soviet Union”

* Watching American movies in the USSR ft. Boris Levine

* Anti-Soviet identities in the USSR

* The End

* Breeders

* Adam Curtis, get out of my head

* Navalny, the Kremlin, and the curse of neoliberalism

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A new “Navalny” documentary was all the rage a few days ago, when it won several awards at the Sundance Film Festival. We review this shallow, predictable film and talk about the larger political situation in Russia — something that’s completely missing from the doc.

—Yasha Levine

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A couple of notes.

We mention Evgenia’s mockumentary — Changemaker — which perfectly captures the essence of the kind of filmmaker who directs a film like “Navalny.” And we reference a couple of old episodes, so check them out if you haven’t already:

* Russians Against Politics

* “I didn’t want to live in a simulacrum of American life in the ruins of the Soviet Union”

* Navalny, the Kremlin, and the curse of neoliberalism

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For this ep we have something special for you: Evgenia and I talk about a trip we took a few years ago to the jungles of Peru for an ayahuasca retreat. We thought we were going to commune with an ancient spirit. Instead we got plunged right back into something very familiar: our own sad, atomized society.

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Evgenia in our palatial accommodations, enjoying a respite from the ceremony.

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We got a Christmas Eve Special for you. Evgenia and I talk about the Epstein case and the reaction to it here in America. The starting point of our discussion is a comment Evgenia made a while ago: “One thing confuses me. I’m not American so I don’t fully know the culture. Do people really expect...and are people outraged that the people in power are not upright citizens? If we roll back history, weren’t feudal lords known for raping peasants? I’m talking about basic stuff!”

Merry Christmas and Happy Listening!

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—Yasha Levine

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Welcome back for another episode of The Russians.

Today we talk about Paul Verhoeven’s latest movie, Benedetta, and what unites Verhoeven and Todd Solondz. We also get into Philip K. Dick and how starting a religious cult is the only answer to the problems plaguing society right now.

—Evgenia and Yasha

Listen to our previous episodes:

* Episode #17: Immigrant Deprogramming with Nika Dubrovsky

* Episode #16: Imaginary Futures with Richard Barbrook

* Episode #15: Behind the Silicon Curtain

* Episode #14: The Soviet Jew & good riddance Los Feliz

* Episode #13: Immigrant Deprogramming with Anna/Аня

* Episode #12: “I didn’t want to live in a simulacrum of American life in the ruins of the Soviet Union”

* Episode #11: Watching American movies in the USSR ft. Boris Levine

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For this installment of our ongoing Immigrant Deprogramming series, we talk with a truly special and impressive guest: Nika Dubrovsky — artist, author, and partner of the late David Graeber.

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Listen to our previous episodes:

* Episode #16: Imaginary Futures with Richard Barbrook

* Episode #15: Behind the Silicon Curtain

* Episode #14: The Soviet Jew & good riddance Los Feliz

* Episode #13: Immigrant Deprogramming with Anna/Аня

* Episode #12: “I didn’t want to live in a simulacrum of American life in the ruins of the Soviet Union”

* Episode #11: Watching American movies in the USSR ft. Boris Levine

* Episode #10: Anti-Soviet identities in the USSR

* …and more.

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