In Between Sundays

Afraid of the end of the world? Pastor Maggie [LAST NAME] was. She grew up with so much fear around the book of Revelation that she avoided it for years. In this conversation, she and Pastor Tony Johnson talk honestly about what changed when they finally studied it, and why the end of the world doesn't have to scare you.

Tony and Maggie look back on a full journey through Revelation and share what surprised them most. The mark of the beast is a counterfeit of something God did first: marking his people as his own. The number 666 pointed to a real Roman emperor. The rapture never actually appears in Revelation, and the book pictures God's people standing firm rather than escaping. They also talk about what we're quietly drawn to, why faith should show up in how we live, and the moment in Revelation 21 where God makes his home with his people for good.

If you can't stop trying to control everything, keeping every plate spinning because it feels like it all depends on you, this conversation is for you. Tony and Maggie get honest about their own need to be in charge, and why letting go of control might be the strongest thing you ever do.

They find the answer somewhere unexpected: Revelation 5. John is told a conquering lion has won, and when he turns around, he sees a slain lamb, still standing. The victory came through what looked like weakness. Tony and Maggie talk about what that means on an ordinary Tuesday: why the Lamb is never anxious, what it looks like to trade control for trust, and why giving yourself for the people you love doesn't mean you stop taking care of yourself.

What actually makes a good dad — and why does nobody seem to have it figured out? In this Father's Day episode of In Between Sundays, three pastors sit down for an honest conversation about Christian fatherhood: the failures, the second chances, and the stuff nobody puts on social media.

Tony Johnson is joined by Ethan Maple and Connor Guerzini to talk about what they've actually learned as dads — not from a stage, but from the kitchen table. They get into why a strong marriage might be the most important thing you do for your kids, what it means to raise kids who love Jesus more than they chase success, why apologizing to your children
is a strength and not a weakness, and how to love your kids equally while treating each one completely differently. It's less a how-to and more a permission slip: you don't have to perform to be a good parent.

What actually makes a good dad — and why does nobody seem to have it figured out? In this Father's Day episode of In Between Sundays, three pastors sit down for an honest conversation about Christian fatherhood: the failures, the second chances, and the stuff nobody puts on social media.

Tony Johnson is joined by Ethan Maple and Connor Guerzini to talk about what they've actually learned as dads — not from a stage, but from the kitchen table. They get into why a strong marriage might be the most important thing you do for your kids, what it means to raise kids who love Jesus more than they chase success, why apologizing to your children
is a strength and not a weakness, and how to love your kids equally while treating each one completely differently. It's less a how-to and more a permission slip: you don't have to perform to be a good parent.

If motherhood feels lonely, you're not making it up  and you're not the
only one. In this Mother's Day episode, host Maggie Freeman sits down with
the three women who have been her closest friends for the last eight years:
Debbie, Jenny, and Bethany. They live in three different states. They've
mostly never been in the same room. 

This is a real conversation about what it actually looks like to find mom
friends who show up. They talk through what they've learned across every
stage of motherhood (from grandmothering down to elementary school), the
specific ways diversity in age and season has made them better moms, and
the moment Maggie texted the group when the police pulled into her front
yard. They name the two enemies of every mother — isolation and futility —
and offer practical, hard-won advice for any Christian mom who is tired,
overwhelmed, or quietly wondering where her people are.

If you've ever thought "I just need someone who gets it" this one's for
you. Pass it to a friend who needs the same.

Why does the Bible tell us to confess our sins to one another and what happens when we stop? In this episode of In Between Sundays, Tony Johnson and Maggie Freeman sit down with Dr Wes Beavis, clinical psychologist, to close out our three-part series on spiritual disciplines with the one most of us avoid: confession.

This is not the confession you grew up picturing. It's not a booth, a priest, or a list of guilts read to a stranger. It's James 5:16  "Confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed" and the conversation asks a question most churches quietly duck.

Our crew works through the psychology of shame, why secrets lose their power the moment they're spoken out loud, how to tell a safe person from an unsafe one, and what it takes to build the kind of relationships where real confession can happen. Plus a story from Psalm 32 that will reframe how you read David's whole life, and a lesson from aviation about why one-degree course corrections beat catastrophe recovery every time.

📖 SCRIPTURE REFERENCED
James 5:16 · Psalm 32 · 2 Samuel 12 · 1 John 1:9

Why does it feel like mental health is getting worse… even though life isn’t necessarily harder?

In this conversation, a clinical psychologist and pastor breaks down what’s really happening beneath anxiety, depression, and feeling stuck—and why many of us are approaching mental health the wrong way.

You’ll learn:
 • Why anxiety isn’t always a bad thing
 • The difference between normal struggle and being “stuck”
 • How labels can quietly shape your identity
 • Why boredom might actually be good for you
 • The 5 key factors that lead to real mental resilience

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, stuck, or like something is “wrong” with you—this conversation will reframe everything.

You’re not broken. You’re human.

Is worship just singing on Sunday morning?

In this episode, we talk about what worship really is, why it matters, and how it goes far beyond music. From Romans 12 to John 4 to Revelation 4, this conversation explores worship as surrender, sacrifice, presence, and a life fully offered to God.

We also talk about corporate worship, different worship styles, spiritual pride, authenticity, and what it looks like to worship God in spirit and truth. Whether you feel deeply connected during music or struggle to engage in worship at all, this conversation will help you rethink what it means to glorify God with your whole life.

If you’ve ever wondered why worship feels powerful sometimes, distant other times, or bigger than just a song set, this episode is for you.

Scriptures referenced:
Romans 12:1
Revelation 4:6–11
John 4:21–26
Matthew 4:8–10

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In this episode, Tony and Maggie get brutally honest about what prayer looks like in real life—when your mind won’t slow down, your schedule is packed, your kids are up early, and you’re carrying anxiety, grief, or distraction.

If you’ve ever felt guilty because your prayer life doesn’t match the “perfect quiet time” version you were taught, this conversation will help you breathe again—and take a practical next step.

In this episode, we talk about:
 • Why prayer is a discipline (and why that matters)
 • Breaking free from the “it has to look like this” prayer box
 • How to pray throughout the day (not just one perfect morning block)
 • Turning distractions into invitations to pray
 • Simple prayers you can pray anytime: Help. Thanks. Wow.
 • Why Jesus teaches us to pray with boldness (even “shameless audacity”)
 • Why you don’t learn prayer by reading—you learn it by practicing

Bible verses mentioned:
 • Psalm 23
 • Luke 11
 • James 4:8

If prayer feels awkward, scary, or inconsistent—don’t wait until you “feel ready.” Start practicing today.

This is one of the most debated questions in the modern church:

Can women be pastors?

In this episode, Tony and Maggie walk through Scripture, from Genesis to the New Testament, exploring what the Bible actually says about women preaching and leadership.

They discuss:
 • Galatians 3 and equality in Christ
 • The “helper” language in Genesis
 • Women leaders and proclaimers throughout Scripture
 • The “tension passages” (1 Corinthians 14 and 1 Timothy 2) and how context matters
 • Why this is not a salvation issue
 • How to disagree without dividing the Church

This conversation isn’t about winning an argument.

It’s about studying Scripture deeply, approaching it humbly, and being willing to align ourselves with what God’s Word actually says—even when it costs us something.

Whether you agree or disagree, our hope is that you’ll open your Bible, study the passages for yourself, and pursue unity in Christ.

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Bible Verses Mentioned in This Episode

Core passages
 • Galatians 3:23–29
 • Genesis 2:18
 • Genesis 2:21–22
 • 1 Corinthians 14:34–35
 • 1 Corinthians 11:5–6
 • 1 Timothy 2:11–15
 • 1 Timothy 3:1–7

Women in Scripture referenced
 • Judges 4 (Deborah)
 • 2 Chronicles 34:14–33 (Huldah)
 • Joel 2
 • Acts 2:4
 • Luke 10:38–42 (Mary & Martha)
 • Luke 8:1–3
 • John 20
 • Acts 16 (Lydia)
 • Romans 16 (Phoebe + Junia)
 • Acts 21:8–9 (Philip’s daughters)

Other passages referenced for context/examples
 • 1 Corinthians 8 (food sacrificed to idols)