Ian speaks with Carl Newman of The New Pornographers about paying or not paying attention to critics, the extended gestation of the band's new record, the difficulty of writing about the internet, the unique impermanence of The New Pornographers, assembling a discography over the decades, the Canadian-ness of the band—plus Bob, Leonard, Joni, Neil, Geese, and more.

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