Ian chats with Michelle Zauner of Japanese Breakfast about loving Billy Joel, working with Blake Mills (and his famous nails), coming to terms with Los Angeles, giving Jim Keltner Korean food recs, the joys of playing festivals, the perils of Studio Ghibli AI, writing with the sticker system, "A Complete Unknown," assorted Beach Boys takes, and much more.

SUBSCRIBE TO JOKERMEN ON PATREON

LISTEN TO "FOR MELANCHOLY WOMEN (& SAD WOMEN)"

CATCH JAPANESE BREAKFAST ON TOUR