Infertility is already isolating. Inside the fire service, it often becomes invisible.

In this episode, Chelsi talks with Brittany R. Thomas-Vestal, a therapist who works with first responders and their families and a fire wife whose own family was built through IVF. Brittany shares what it looked like to navigate infertility around fire schedules, overtime, and deployments, often without language, support, or space to slow down.

Together, they talk about the unspoken pressure fire spouses feel to stay strong, independent, and grateful, even while carrying financial strain, emotional exhaustion, postpartum mental health challenges, and long stretches of solo parenting.

This conversation names what so many fire families live through quietly, and why independence, while powerful, can also keep us from asking for the support we actually need.

LEARN MORE ABOUT BRITTANY: https://www.brittanythomasvestal.com/