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In this episode of Fraudology, host Karisse Hendrick is joined by two of the industry’s most respected fraud experts: Frank McKenna (Co-Founder of Point Predictive) and Matt Vega (Sardine). Together, they break down how AI is transforming the fraud landscape, supercharging deepfake scams, automating exploitation tools, enabling AI-generated phishing sites, and powering large-scale credential-based attacks that bypass traditional controls.

The conversation also highlights what fraud leaders can do: strengthening behavioral biometrics, enabling offensive threat-intel programs, leveraging agent-based automation responsibly, and preparing for a world where AI fights AI inside fraud-detection pipelines. A must-listen for fraud, risk, fintech, banking, and cybersecurity professionals navigating 2025’s rapidly evolving threat environment.

Matt Vega

Frank McKenna

Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line.

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She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.