The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Lindsay Patterson speaks with Dennis Applegate about how internal audit education is shaping the future of the profession. From addressing the talent pipeline shortage to giving students hands-on experience with risk assessments and mock audit plans, Dennis Applegate shares how academic programs can inspire the next generation of internal auditors — and how professionals can get involved.

HOST:Lindsay Patterson, CIA, CPAExecutive Vice President of Membership, Marketing & Communications, The IIA

GUEST:Dennis Applegate, CIA, CPA, CMA, CFEAssociate Clinical Professor, Albers School of Business, Seattle University

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction and Pipeline Challenges [00:00-00:02:40]
• Applegates's Background and Teaching Experience [00:01:03-00:01:56]
• Declining Enrollment in Accounting and Internal Auditing [00:02:03-00:03:22]
• Integrating Internal Auditing into Business Curricula [00:03:22-00:04:44]
• Raising Awareness Beyond Accounting Programs [00:04:44-00:05:40]
• Internal Audit Course Objectives and Frameworks [00:05:58-00:07:52]
• Emphasizing Enterprise Risk Management [00:07:53-00:10:58]
• Hands-On Learning: Team Projects and Risk Assessments [00:10:58-00:14:37]
• Presenting to Hypothetical Audit Committees [00:14:37-00:16:16]
• Audit Plan Development and Risk Prioritization [00:16:16-00:18:49]
• Student Outcomes and Passing the CIA Exam [00:18:49-00:20:26]
• Career Paths in Internal Auditing and Risk Advisory [00:20:26-00:21:23]
• Advice for Universities and Professors [00:21:23-00:22:54]
• Broader Curriculum Benefits and Enrollment Growth [00:23:03-00:24:51]
• Closing Thoughts and Encouragement for Educators [00:24:51-00:25:34]

THE IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

• 2025 Governance, Risk & Controls Conference
• Internal Auditing Education Partnership (IAEP) Program
• Vision 2035: The Future of Internal Audit
• Internal Audit Competency Framework
• Learning Center

Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more.

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