In Trump 2.0, China has surprisingly taken a backseat to a renewed focus on the Middle East. And as the United States becomes less predictable and reliable, China has positioned itself as a stable partner on the international stage.

In this episode, the Institute for Global Affairs' Jonathan Guyer is joined by Kaiser Kuo, host of the China current affairs podcast Sinica. They discuss how China is thinking about the United States in this moment, the country's approach to technology and innovation, and why China won't replace the United States anytime soon. Kaiser also points out that American and Chinese people have far more in common than they may realize.

Find Kaiser on X: https://x.com/KaiserKuo

Listen to Sinica: https://www.sinicapodcast.com/