Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single question around design system troubles with a Q&A from the live audience.

It's the month before Config! So we're diving into a spicy topic - is Figma helping or hindering design systems? Is the future of design systems a world where Figma doesn't exist? Or are design tools like Figma essential for the work we do in design systems day to day?

Show notes

• Figma Weave (acquisition / launch)
• Figma Make Kits announcement
• The State of AI in Design Systems (zeroheight)
• Design Systems Report 2025 (zeroheight)
• UX Tools Design Tools Survey
• Converge (zeroheight)
• Luke Murphy on Bluesky
• Michelle Chin on Bluesky