While Human & Holy is on a season break, we’re bringing back this conversation with Chayale Tzukernik, where we explore the role our thoughts play in the way we view the world.

Chayale speaks about bridging the gap between her intellectual understanding of an idea and its practical implications in her life. We discuss questioning our natural thought processes in order to guide them towards a more objective truth, and how to practically reframe our experiences in order to align them with a more G-dly perspective of the world.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Introduction: Struggling with judgmental thoughts

01:10 – Season break announcement

01:42 – Meet Chayale Tzukernik

03:05 – Why thought is central in Chassidus

04:38 – The transformative power of thought

06:45 – Internal vs. external harmony through intentional thinking

08:10 – Reframing control: from force to gentle inner teaching

10:00 – Bridging the gap between knowing and living Torah ideas

12:03 – Making Torah personal: internalizing Hashem’s love

13:44 – Choosing thoughts vs. controlling them

15:40 – Thoughts as clutter: does it spark joy?

17:32 – From default judgment to G-dly perception

19:00 – Questioning our own perceptions: trusting Hashem’s view over ours

21:20 – Releasing attachment to negative thoughts

22:20 – Reframing fear through divine perspective

24:30 – Parenting and fear: letting go of control

26:07 – Moving self out of the center, putting G-d in His place

27:50 – Thinking good

28:40 – The case for conscious thought selection

30:20 – Judging others: from coercion to spiritual re-alignment

33:10 – Practical steps to retrain your thoughts

35:10 – Replacing old narratives with Torah truth

36:45 – Personalizing Torah ideas to real relationships

38:30 – Applying Chassidus to judgment in daily life

40:00 – Looking for evidence of the soul in others

41:30 – Final thoughts: transformation through gentle redirection

42:55 – Outro: Season 6 returns Sept 7