Graeme Wood is in Israel to report on the aftermath of the October 7 atrocities for The Atlantic. He joins Jamie to share his impressions of Israel from before and after the attack, including:

-records (and recordings) of the pogrom

-the alienation between the Israeli state and the Israeli people

-the participation ultra-Orthodox Jews in the war effort

-the Hamas/ISIS comparison

-civilian deaths in Gaza

Show Notes:

-Graeme Wood's profile at The Atlantic

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