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Welcome to the "Let's Be Bad" episode of ITBR Rewatches the iconic "Smash" 2012 American TV show! Hosted by Christian Garcia (Host of That Ol' Gay Classic Cinema). Elizabeth Winder, the writer of "Marilyn in Manhattan," joins us again with her extensive Marilyn Monroe knowledge! The Broadway cast is rehearsing the musical number "Let's Be Bad" which explores the pain and anguish Marilyn went through when filming "Some Like It Hot." Elizabeth explains that this is one of many moments where Marilyn was faced with career difficulties.

Like Marilyn, Elizabeth suffers from insomnia and this is what caused Marilyn to frequently need breaks and have trouble remembering lines. We all provide our artistic interpretation of the choreography in this number since Ivy is being pulled in different directions like a marionette. Then, Elizabeth explains the nuances between Marilyn and Arthur Miller's toxic relationship compared to that of her and Joe DiMaggio. We all express our frustration with Derek who is manipulating both Ivy and Karen for the sake of putting on an incredible show, or is he? And, why do we bring up Britney Spears?

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Karen puts her talents to use at a government party; Michael and Julia's drama increases; Eileen joins forces with Tom's assistant; Ivy thinks something is amiss in her relationship with Derek.

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"How Marilyn Monroe Became a Trailblazing Gay Icon": https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/marilyn-monroe-gay-icon/

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It's 1982 and you're eager to attend the Barnard Conference on Sexuality, in NYC, but when you arrive you're met with a multitude of anti-p*rn feminists picketing the event! This cultural moment ignited the start of what's now referred to as the Feminist Sex Wars. Today in the ITBR, Dr. Margaret Galvan, assistant professor of visual rhetoric in the Dept. of English at the University of Florida revisits the P*RN and SEX debates and explains that those picketing the Barnard event led to the censoring of certain sexual material...sound familiar? I ask Margaret whether we are in a new edition of the Feminist Sex Wars and her answer is quite illuminating...I mean she does teach in Florida! Also, did the anti-p*rn 1980s feminists account for GAY P*RN?

Make sure to grab a copy of Margaret's book "In Visible Archives: Queer and Feminist Visual Culture in the 1980s" (2023) here: https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/in-visible-archives

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Ronnie Jr. from the Randomly Ronnie Jr. show joined me to recap "Queer as Folk" episode eight, but we got into a riveting discussion after Ronnie asked me whether I would support an LGBTQ celebrity even if they put their foot in their mouth (Todrick Hall anyone)? This sparked such a nuanced discussion concerning cancel culture and Reality TV controversies. Why were people surprised about Ramona Singer stepping in it when Eboni K. Williams kept telling us that the call was coming from inside the RHONY house! Is there a possibility that Eboni, Bethenny Frankel, and Leah McSweeney could repair their relationship and unite together...only time will tell. Andrew and Ronnie agree that Eboni should have her own reality show that features fellow intellectuals, like Dr. Wendy Osefo! And how does a shirtless Jax Taylor come up in our conversation?

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Shortly after graduating, Michael Turpin married his college sweetheart. Unable to give up her party girl lifestyle, Michael’s wife ran through their money faster than he could provide it. In an effort to keep her lifestyle, she hatched a murderous plot. 

Theme Song: Pisces by Anne Sophie Andersen

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https://www.wkyt.com/2021/02/02/were-just-very-grateful-this-chapter-is-over-father-of-michael-turpin-reacts-to-parole-decision/

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/five-shocking-details-michael-turpin-s-murder

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/seduced-to-slay-who-was-michael-turpin-and-what-happened-to-him/ar-AA1n1BqI

https://thecinemaholic.com/michael-turpin-murder-where-is-elizabeth-turpin-now/

https://www.wkyt.com/2021/02/01/parole-denied-for-woman-convicted-in-1986-murder-of-girlfriends-husband-in-lexington/

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Ronnie Jr. from the Randomly Ronnie Jr. show (on YouTube) enters the ITBR again to talk all about QAF with Dr. Andrew Rimby!

Just to remind you all here's a brief description about the, "Babylon Boomerang" episode:

Justin's father attacks Brian outside Babylon; Michael gets a promotion at work; Justin moves in with Brian.

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Ryan is extremely transparent about the difficulty of securing a Humanities faculty position at a university, and he provides advice as well as discussing with Andrew other career avenues for PhD grads. Interestingly, being an academic and a performer are very similar! Ryan provides a critique of how Broadway has privileged certain bodies over others, and he turns to "A Chorus Line," "Hairspray," and "Dreamgirls" for his argument. Then, Andrew asks Ryan why so many straight men have played queer male roles on Broadway, and why there's still a lack of nuanced queer Broadway narratives. Like Dr. Stacy Wolf, David Armstrong, and Jesse Green's episodes, Ryan takes us backstage to look at new approaches to understand Broadway's history with the LGBTQ+ community.

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Welcome to a very special end of 2023 ITBR episode as we ring in 2024 with you all! Dr. Andrew Rimby (host/director of ITBR) is joined with Mary DiPipi (host of True Crime in Academia) to recap all...yes all...of their 2023 episodes. Get a pen and pencil, or your phone will suffice, to jot down which eps you need to listen to. And there are many arts and culture (books, movies, and TV shows) recommendations so you'll be busy in the new year!

We'll be back with new ITBR and TCIA episodes starting on January 8th so in the meantime, make sure you listen back to the episodes you've missed. We want to thank you all for such an incredible 2023, and here's to an even better 2024! Thanks to our guests who have become part of our extended family, and thanks to you the listener for being part of this ITBR community. A happy and healthy 2024 to you all.

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Scholar, Professor, and Rhetorician, Dr. Travis A. Rountree enters the ITBR to discuss episode 7, "Smells Like Codependence" of the iconic “Queer as Folk” 2000 American TV show! On this episode Travis shares his fondness for the characters and says, “I felt like they were my friends." Later, Andrew and Travis discuss Brian and Michael’s codependence as “trauma bonding” since each experienced difficult pasts that come to light later in the series. Finally, Andrew and Travis discuss the broad spectrum of queer male experiences since this episode includes the inclusion of the closeted gay man, the innocent gay man, and the asshole gay man.

Just to remind you all here's a brief description about the, "Smells Like Codependence" episode:

Debbie meets Dr. David; Michael and Dr. David spend a weekend in the country; Justin's father learns the truth and decides to send Justin away to school; Brian's emotional hold on Michael and dislike for Dr. David intensifies.

Make sure you re-watch all of the episodes with us on Showtime: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sho.com/queer-as-folk/season/1⁠⁠

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Author, Occupational Therapist and Proud Late Bloomer, Melissa Giberson, enters the ITBR to discuss her latest novel "Late Bloomer: Finding My Authentic Self at Midlife” where she narrates her own coming out story which starts with a woman who she can't stop thinking about. However, she is married with children and realizes that in order to live her authentic self, she needs to come clean to her husband and kids. On this episode of ITBR, Melissa battles the preconceived notion that she was “born this way” by speaking of a fluidity that enables us to come out “in our own way at our own time”. Melissa warns us that we ought to be aware of those who are threatening the queer community and says we should “live our truest lives but also be aware of the world that we do live in." Finally, Andrew and Melissa share their thoughts on having patience with closeted people and agree that “it’s not on us to force someone to come out" but it's important to be a safe space for them.

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Fiction writer, Lucian Childs enters the ITBR to discuss his new novel “Dreaming Home” where he addresses topics of Conversion Therapy, Family Abuse, and Queer Youth Homelessness by tracing the 40-year history of one Texas family. On this episode, Lucian cites his research on Conversion Therapy and says "42 billion youth are homeless annually and 40% of those identify as LGBTQ+” highlighting a problem where many Americans do not support queer culture, and queer youth find it difficult to receive acceptance in their homes. Lucian and Andrew discuss the difficulties the Democratic party face in having to promote queer friendly laws while also warding off Republican hate speech.  Finally, Lucian opens up about the public response to his novel and says “readers that I talk to like the fact they have to fill in the blanks between the stories themselves” displaying the fluidity of the novel and its characters and how they can seemingly merge together.

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