Today’s guest today is Ivy Zelman, CEO and co-founder of Zelman & Associates, a leading housing research firm. She was recently named to Barron's 100 Most Influential Women in U.S. Finance and gained notoriety leading up to the Great Financial Crisis when she pounded the table the market was overheated, even asking Toll Brothers CEO Bob Toll “which kool-aid are you drinking” on a 2016 earnings call.

In today’s episode, we start by going back to 2008 and hearing what led her to be one of the few housing bears. Then we get into the housing market today, which she describes as euphoric and bonkers. She explains why poor demographics and lack of affordability due to rising rates lead her to think the market is over-extended today.

We also get her thoughts on other important trends effecting the housing market today: the entrance of iBuyers and Wall Street firms, why she doesn’t think housing demand is as high as other analysts, and the impact of supply chain issues.

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