"People have been aware of racism for a long time, but I think we have all had our awareness radically heightened and our eyes open in these last few weeks."

Jake Knapp

I'm Douglas Ferguson, and I'm on a mission to help people everywhere have better meetings. There's clear evidence that poorly run meetings not only waste time, but they also squander a lot of money. A recent report by Doodle found that $541 billion is lost globally every year on common meeting mistakes–and that's just the report from the County for Direct Labor Costs. This staggering amount translates into opportunity costs we incur from ineffective meetings.

I'm excited to have Jake Knapp with me today! He is the creator of The Design Sprint, author of Make Time and author of the New York Times bestseller Sprint: How to Solve Big Problems and Test New Ideas in Just Five Days. Jake also happens to be one of the world's tallest designers. 

We talk about Sprint, spending time with the family, and how Jake's book is more relevant now in light of the COVID pandemic. Amid the pandemic and riots, we are challenged by outside events that we can't control but are forced to deal with at the moment. "We also can't ignore the fact that these things offer great opportunities for us." Jake talks about embracing the right parts of staying at home, such as spending more time with family.

Listen in to our dialogue about learning how to remove shame when talking about racial barriers, how we are both feeling the change, and how we can have a positive impact. Find out why Jake hates meetings, the pros and cons of online meetings, and design elements involving movement of the human body during the workday.