00:24 - Welcome Jalil 

03:29 - From art to coding 

07:04 - Finding Web3 and NFTs 

08:05 - Finding Visualize Value and community  

14:01 - The Permissionless Apprentice and connecting with Jack 

18:47 - Embracing Ethereum and learning Solidity 

22:10 - Scapes  

24:24 - Experiencing the NFT boom  

29:46 - From rock bottom to Checks  

35:08 - Building the Checks contracts  

39:39 - How Checks works 

41:53 - Rarity, MEV risk and gaming the system 

43:26 - From Checks to Opepen and an ongoing collaboration  

44:24 - Creative roles, collaboration and ego 

45:58 - The impact of AI on Jalil's practice 

50:38 - Obsession as a path to exceptionalism  

53:58 - Exploring an individual art practice again     

56:43 - CryptoPunks V1 and V2 

01:00:50 - Fixing V1 trading on-chain and the issue with wrappers 

01:04:22 - V1 drama and shifting views on IP 

01:09:33 - The birth of Networked 

01:14:32 - Building for wider understanding with EVM Now  

01:18:40 - A new auction house for Punks 

01:21:01 - New launches and ideas at Verse  

Scapes: https://scapes.xyz/ 

https://jack.art/checks-originals 

https://opepen.art/ 

https://x.com/jalilwahdat